Why are we fighting over MOTD ads and not fighting over FAKE PLAYERS,
the whole reason this was started,

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Todd Pettit <[email protected]> wrote:
> In addition all regular television is paid for by Ads. I don't know if you 
> are aware of this but the GoDaddy girls don't have a damn thing to do with 
> the Super Bowl. Do you feel this dilutes the NFL Brand?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Pettit" <[email protected]>
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:15:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Delisting, does it need some changes?
>
> How is partnering with pinion any different than Taco Bell selling Choco 
> tacos from klondike, Mountain Dew, or Doritos Taco Shells?
>
> My servers are the best servers because I monitor them offer the best plugins 
> my users prefer and promote regular events where I give away prizes from the 
> money pinion pays me.
>
> Sooo... Diluted it is not. I have never got pissed at a restaurant cause they 
> didn't make their own soda. Its cheaper and allows them to make a greater 
> profit. I don't see people protesting.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russell Smith" <[email protected]>
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:32:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Delisting, does it need some changes?
>
> The difference is Red Bull is going out and promoting themselves. You're
> not promoting yourself when you show an ad in your motd. Instead you're
> promoting someone else and diluting your community brand.
>
> I feel like this crosses a line where you're no longer trying to run a
> community, but rather run a business.  At that point it seems like the
> players are being used to feed the business instead of persuaded to stay
> by running a place that is welcoming and fun.
>
> This is my gut feeling as a player.  I also feel like this reflects
> poorly on not only the server, but on Valve as the developer for
> allowing this in the game.  I can't imagine that was their intention
> when they put in the web browser for the motd.
>
> On 8/10/2012 6:58 PM, Todd Pettit wrote:
>> I am? You think pinion is getting bigger and bigger sponsors every week 
>> because its a failed idea?
>>
>> You think Red Bull are idiots for having plane races, modifiying mini 
>> coopers, hiring models, buying a arena football team, hiring a man to jump a 
>> ramp on a motorcycle on New Years Eve and running thousands of ads until 
>> every single one of us cannot possibly forget the phrase "Red Bull Gives You 
>> Wings"?!?
>>
>> Well sir you need an education in Economics 101 or you better start thinking 
>> about what trade school you want to attend.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "DontWannaName!" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 9:41:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Delisting, does it need some changes?
>>
>> You are naive...
>>
>>
>
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