That's my general feeling too. The problem with motd ads is when you add
them long after you started running the server. It's a similar problem to
adding donor perks. Regulars might not respond well to suddenly being
advertised to, or to being kicked when a donor claims his reserved slot.
It's unwelcoming.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Russell Smith <[email protected]>wrote:

> The difference is Red Bull is going out and promoting themselves. You're
> not promoting yourself when you show an ad in your motd. Instead you're
> promoting someone else and diluting your community brand.
>
> I feel like this crosses a line where you're no longer trying to run a
> community, but rather run a business.  At that point it seems like the
> players are being used to feed the business instead of persuaded to stay by
> running a place that is welcoming and fun.
>
> This is my gut feeling as a player.  I also feel like this reflects poorly
> on not only the server, but on Valve as the developer for allowing this in
> the game.  I can't imagine that was their intention when they put in the
> web browser for the motd.
>
>
> On 8/10/2012 6:58 PM, Todd Pettit wrote:
>
>> I am? You think pinion is getting bigger and bigger sponsors every week
>> because its a failed idea?
>>
>> You think Red Bull are idiots for having plane races, modifiying mini
>> coopers, hiring models, buying a arena football team, hiring a man to jump
>> a ramp on a motorcycle on New Years Eve and running thousands of ads until
>> every single one of us cannot possibly forget the phrase "Red Bull Gives
>> You Wings"?!?
>>
>> Well sir you need an education in Economics 101 or you better start
>> thinking about what trade school you want to attend.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "DontWannaName!" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" <
>> [email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 9:41:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Delisting, does it need some changes?
>>
>> You are naive...
>>
>>
>>
>
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