Noel: Even loading something in Flash (unless a security flaw in Flash is exploited) will not allow direct access to client processes. You can nitpick the semantics of that if you want, but it doesn't change the fact that the ingame motd has no greater ability to do things with client processes then a normal web browser.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Noel <[email protected]> wrote: > @John: > "It is *not possible* to run or manipulate processes on clients, and it > is not possible send files to clients (with the obvious exception of > map/model/texture/etc files which are required to make the game work)." > > In practice, sometimes this may not be the case -- it's a matter of > interpretation; if loading the motd of a server automatically leads the > player/connectee's client to access HTML content and/or execute a flash > file in the process, then from the user perspective this could be seen as > refuting the quote above. > > @the thread: > > Semantics aside, I am in agreement.. *caveat HTTP Requestor*.. Unless > you disable HTML motd processing in your client you are giving them > permission to put whatever HTML and HTML-associated content they want in > your face when you connect to their server. > > For immediate, direct redress, you can: > 1) do as some have suggested and disable your computer's ability to > execute Flash file requests not associated with specific, approved > applications (such as your browser) > 2) disable all HTML motd content > 3) engineer one or more of a practically unlimited number of tailor-made > solutions on a variety of levels specific to your client software > > Significantly less direct and effective solutions, which may also work: > a) campaign for sweeping policy changes regarding the rights of Server > Admins to run their servers how they see fit > b) enact a public-awareness type campaign against the specific servers > associated with the offense > c) do B or C while including evidence of 'bad faith' on the part of the > operators perpetrating the alleged offenses > > > You'll notice that emailing HLDS -- a list full of server admins who are > unlikely to find the restriction of Server Admin rights appealing -- is on > neither of those lists.. because I don't see what it will accomplish for > you. > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:52 PM, John Marbury <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I really don't care about this thread, but I am going to call you on >> saying idiotic things. It is *not possible* to run or manipulate >> processes on clients, and it is not possible send files to clients (with >> the obvious exception of map/model/texture/etc files which are required to >> make the game work). >> >> It is also worth pointing out that the Pinion plugin does not do anything >> remotely related or similar to sending files or controlling processes on >> the client. This leads me to ask; what are you smoking and request that >> you stop. Or at least stop subjecting this list to your lunacy. >> >> Arrogantly yours, >> John Marbury >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:32 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> @dr. mckay - you're mistaken if you believe server ops have a "right" to >>> impose undesired files and processes on clients. It is illegal per >>> international law to do so. The only exception would be for server ops to >>> provide a terms of usage document prior to providing access and allowing >>> the client to accept or reject the terms outlined in this document. >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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