There’s really an easy solution: disconnect and blacklist servers that you don’t like.
Just because servers do things that clients don’t like doesn’t mean that the functionality should be removed from the game. Doctor McKay http://www.doctormckay.com From: James Haikin Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 5:11 PM To: Mart-Jan Reeuwijk ; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Alias & Existing Commands Funny story: you actually catch more flies with vinegar. Any 'reward' system I can think of would result in a lopsided/broken game. However, I also think that trying to punish people is kind of a terrible idea. I don't think there's really a solution for this. -James On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk <[email protected]> wrote: And I don't believe that a server should demand that ppl have the MOTD enabled, while this is a directly accessible feature to set under the options in-game. Too many advert providers nowadays are the real threat to browsers. To demand to have adverts directed to "unsecure" browsers which cannot be protected by plugins like NoScript is insane. Also, the abuse of such by server owners, and their willingness to do so, makes it a requirement to be able to guard oneself against such. Having a plugin that kicks ppl that haven't viewed the MOTD by someone that has it disabled (which can be for various reasons: crashing, no annoying screens, etc) is therefore not some I would support. Which is what the blocking of the MOTD closed command is about. While I appreciate that Valve has solved some problems with the MOTD not showing, I didn't notice a "fix" against crashing the client from those. But as I didn't follow all updates regarding that, I might have missed some. I disabled the MOTD back in 2008, for it crashed my client on various servers. I never saw a valid reason to enable it again. Maybe you should make a plugin that "rewards" ppl that actually watch that MOTD instead of punishing the ones that block it. Altho with above security issues, that is a risk ppl should take themselves. The reward can be simply checked with a number shown in MOTD corner, and ask for it in the plugin on the server for example. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: Mart-Jan Reeuwijk <[email protected]>; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 20:40 Subject: Re: [hlds] Alias & Existing Commands Exploits that allow servers to execute arbitrary client commands (not those specifically tagged as server can execute) have been fixed. There's no need to block commands. I personally believe that blocking servers from receiving the MOTD closed notification should not be possible, which is what many people are doing with the alias command. Dr. McKay http://www.doctormckay.com On 2013-02-05 11:19, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote: > no need to restart the game. > > alias jpeg; // aliasing the jpeg command, which is used to make a screenshot. > cmd jpeg // this will still make a screenshot. > > I use it (alias over a existing convar/command) to prevent some > servers sending my client some commands I don't want changed on my > client. Examples have been that servers tried to upload screenshots up > to their servers etc. > > Already have to disable steam overlay & MOTD for some malicious stuff > on some servers (I explore on others by time and while) > > So I really wouldn't want it being blocked, for that leaves too much > open. There is no need for a restart, and imo its not a "bug", I treat > it like a prized feature. > >> ------------------------- >> FROM: Saul Rennison <[email protected]> >> TO: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <[email protected]> >> SENT: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 14:31 >> SUBJECT: Re: [hlds] Alias & Existing Commands >> >> This has been fixed in a few engine branches (CSGO definitely) as far as I know. >> >> On Tuesday, 5 February 2013, Joseph Miller wrote: >> >>> Is it by design that it's possible to make an alias over the top of an existing command? In the event that you accidentally make an alias over an existing command, you have to completely restart the game, whereas it seems like you shouldn't be able to overwrite an existing command in the first place. >> >> -- >> >> Kind regards,Saul Rennison >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds [1] > > > Links: > ------ > [1] https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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