Except as time goes on Valve is taking more control away from server admins. Plus they appear to be keeping quiet on recent events. On 9 Nov 2013 09:01, "Dill Bates" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The benefit I get from running my own server is that I have admin rights, > and make make my own rules. That's good enough for me. :) > > > On Nov 8, 2013, at 10:38 PM, ics <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Good and valid points. Registering server for benefits seems to be only > perk for us running servers and receiving players from quickplay. Basically > everyone else have a shot of getting something back except us. I don't like > advertisements in general and i don't use them or donations but i'm all in > for some sort of model that gets some other benefits for running a server > that is usefull to the game as a whole. But i guess there are too many > idiots among us and little time for Valve to check who is good and who is > bad. > > > > -ics > > > > Doctor McKay kirjoitti: > >> I really couldn't have said it better myself. > >> > >> > >> Dr. McKay > >> www.doctormckay.com <http://www.doctormckay.com> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Robert Paulson > >> <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Servers don't need ads much like TF2 didn't need to become > >> free-to-play. It is just a different model of revenue, one that > >> server owners should be free to choose. > >> > >> Once TF2 became F2P, a larger portion of donation money went to > >> the Mann Co Store instead. It also filled slots full of kids who > >> aren't able to pay anything because if they had any money they > >> would have moved to new games like COD. When a game is brand new, > >> there are plenty of people willing to shell out +100€ on servers > >> and donations without a second thought. But that time is long past > >> for TF2 now. For those who want more than the cheapest servers or > >> colocation, donations aren't enough. > >> > >> If you want to see what a donation only game as old as TF2 looks > >> like, all you have to do is look at COD4. The top servers there > >> are dominated by the cheapest servers. If you are donation only be > >> honest with yourself: > >> > >> - How much are you paying out of your own pocket? Why is it > >> immoral to just break even when modelers used to release free on > >> Gamebanana are now making tens of thousands a month on the Mann Co > >> Store? > >> > >> - Do you really have the best server that can be offered to > >> players? The answer is most undoubtedly no. Even the fastest > >> servers choke on 32 players at times and Valve's own servers > >> couldn't even handle 24 players until they restricted FPS to 66. > >> > >> - How long have you been around? When you first start a community > >> you will get a lot of money, but this does not last as communities > >> like Firepowered have figured out. > >> > >> Most of the people here wouldn't be so excited about killing off > >> ad supported servers if they didn't think they would get more > >> players from it. Really why would you care about ads to the point > >> you are excited about removing functionality from your own > >> servers? If we're going to have a real conversation about MOTDs > >> let us be honest about this at least. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:33 AM, DontWannaName! > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> If servers were able to survive for the past 10 years why do > >> we need ads now? It used to be you create a good community or > >> your servers die. Now it's lets out up tons of ads and let my > >> sub par servers survive without the need of a community. In my > >> opinion servers should be running to foster a community, it's > >> a game not a billboard for COD. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone 5 > >> > >> > On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:49 AM, hutch <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > >> > I don't want quick-play players to see the ads either. Not > >> on my servers at least. But I do know I want them to see and > >> ignore my motd, not a txt file. > >> > > >> > If you do not know what I was rambling on about, I rest my > >> case. You confuse the html issue with the sanction of ads. > >> > > >> > Hutch > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >
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