Bumping this over to the CSGO mailing list as well, as many CSGO hosts aren't in the general HLDS list. As this affects CSGO the most, I feel it should be over there as well. -Daniel
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Gamemann <gamem...@gflclan.com> wrote: > Dear Valve and others, I want to talk about a major issue with the Steam > Master Servers. For a while now, the CS:GO server browser would only display > <1000 community servers in the server browser which is low especially for a > very large game. The only people to blame were the CS:GO developers. > Recently, I’ve been testing out the server browser, and I’ve concluded this > isn’t a CS:GO specific issue, this issue impacts CS:GO more than other games > due to the amount of Valve official servers. > > > I’ve discovered that Valve official servers are not shown on the CS:GO > in-game server browser. I’ve used a program called “Wireshark” and started a > packet capture when I refreshed the server browser, in the detailed packet > capture, all the tags are listed and for Valve official servers, there was a > tag named “valve_ds”. I have set this tag for one of my servers on the > server browser and it also disappeared immediately, removing the tag made > the server reappear again. This shows that even though no Valve official > servers are displayed on the in-game server browser, they are still being > requested from the Steam Master Servers. The Steam server browser is > different, it does not filter servers with the tag “valve_ds” and shows all > servers the Steam Master Servers give you including Valve official servers. > > > This leads to the problem with the Steam Master Servers. It is capped at > 5000 maximum servers. On the Steam server browser (no filters), every game > that I’ve tested, including Team-Fortress 2, Counter-Strike: Global > Offensive, Counter-Strike 1.6, Counter-Strike: Source, etc (¾ of these games > overall have 7000+ servers) will not display any more than 5000 servers. The > CS:GO server browser usually displays around 50-1000 servers because there > are around 3000-4000+ Valve official servers. If there is a cap on the > amount of servers it can give you, then this is a valid reason why it > doesn’t display 1000+ community servers. Remember, the CS:GO in-game server > browser still requests the Valve official servers but filters them in the > browser itself. > > > This should help Valve fix the issue. Another thing I would like to > mention is that every game I listed uses the Steam Master Servers, I did a > packet capture with Wireshark when I refreshed the in-game server browser > and it gave me the same Steam server IP in Wireshark right before it > requested all the game servers (the Steam server IP changes if you block the > current Steam server IP through the Windows Firewall tool). One last thing I > would like to mention is even if there isn’t exactly 5000 servers, doesn’t > mean it isn’t capped at 5000 maximum servers, I’ve found that it sends a > request to every IP the Steam Master Servers give you, if it doesn’t > respond, it will not display on the server list (there were 50+ servers not > responding with my search which is the reason why I only got 4911 servers on > the Steam server browser for CS:GO instead of 5000 exactly). > > > Valve should also consider setting Valve official servers to not report > to the Steam Master Servers. CS:GO doesn't display any Valve official > servers, but it still requests each server, therefore, the server browser > will stop displaying new servers (server browser "stops") for a period of > time because it is filtering all the Valve official servers and it will take > more time to display all the community servers after the Valve official > servers. > > > Overall, I hope Valve addresses this issue. Fixing this issue will > benefit Valve and the community. > > > Thanks for reading. > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
