I really do believe that if the community servers start to die out, TF2 will plunge in popularity like never seen before. And with the recent changes, including the aformentioned view on community servers, it has a slight chance of happening. What they are doing is somewhat wrong, in my opinion. Any game developer, let alone Valve's TF2 team, should hear the community out first, then do things. Maybe they really are listening to the community, but not to the people that manage and organise it(see: server/community owners). >Четверг, 17 декабря 2015, 17:33 -05:00 от "E. Olsen" <[email protected]>: > >I hear ya, Rowedahelicon, and after all the letters I've written the TF2 team >filled with workable suggestions for how to improve the situation over the >last 3 years (to include our community spending several months working on a >new UI design that would preserve Valve's changes, while shining a light on >community servers again, which we submitted almost a year ago, and heard >nothing back), I think they've finally extinguished any hope I had that they >would finally come around and consider us valuable to the game again. > >I'd say I understand it, but I really don't. There a certain callousness now >to how they approach community servers now that I never would have thought >possible just a few years ago. Back then, everyone on the team, from Eric >Smith, to Fletcher Dunn, and even Robin Walker were very "approachable" in >terms of ideas and concerns. The atmosphere we were participating in then >could best be described as a "collaboration" between the TF2 team and all of >our communities hosting servers. > >I think the TF2 team are all good folks, and I also think that they believe >they are doing what is best for the game (not matter how much I, and thousands >of regulars that still prefer community servers disagree), but I think there >comes a certain time when you simply have to recognize that not only is your >input not valued anymore, but it is ignored to the point of indifference. > >It's a shame, but I don't think they're listening anymore, and I don't think >they ever intend to again. I'm not sure what earned us this level of disdain, >but it's painfully obvious that's how they feel about community servers. > >On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 5:16 PM, kletch1333 . < [email protected] > >wrote: >>"I think it's time we started to combine our efforts on this matter instead of discussing here in the mailing thread where it turns into bickering" >>What would you suggest? >> >>On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Rowedahelicon < >>[email protected] > wrote: >>>@E.Olsen I tried making a post about that earlier today but it seems it got >>>eaten. I had asked about the progress of the supposed help to the community >>>servers we were promised forever ago. I think it's time we started to >>>combine our efforts on this matter instead of discussing here in the mailing >>>thread where it turns into bickering >>> >>>On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 5:08 PM, E. Olsen < [email protected] > wrote: >>>>So...Bah Humbug to us, as players are once again driven further away from >>>>community servers? >>>> >>>>Geez, guys - you'd think after three years since the "temporary" changes >>>>were made to quickplay, you'd be able to come up with something - anything >>>>- to support the folks who've supported you the most. >>>> >>>>Ah well. Merry Christmas. I hope we're still here next year. >>>> >>>> >>>>On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Eric Smith < [email protected] > >>>>wrote: >>>>>We're working on a mandatory update for TF2. This is the Tough Break >>>>>Update. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.teamfortress.com/toughbreak/ >>>>> >>>>>We should have it ready soon. >>>>> >>>>>-Eric >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>please visit: >>>>>https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>please visit: >>>>https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>*Matthew (Rowedahelicon) Robinson* >>>Web Designer / Artist / Writer >>>Website - http://www.rowedahelicon.com/ >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>please visit: >>>https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >>visit: >>https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please >visit: >https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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