I don't think you're very fair ATM. You got a point but I actually think that VALVe have improved alot the last months. Many are we who whine on this list alot, but I think VALVe(Alfred R especially) deserves some credits for all that they've done too, which is very good improvements in my opinion. You can't say they are ignoring everything on this list, the last HLDS CPU opt. update made me jump in the air of joy. I could finally run two instances of HLDS on my 1800+ again. And they've set up a test server now, where they see what more they can do for a bigger CPU opt. update in the future. I'm not running a customer service renting out CS servers etc so I can't speak on their behalf. BUT I am talking to professional gamers every day and the game is really a much better game today than it were a year or so ago. VALVe do some stupid things now and then but I must say that I'm truly glad that you(VALVe) at least listen to what the biggest demands are and set some peoples to work on these issues at least. So keep up the good work, and work on the not so good work part too, I'm sure you do though ;-)
BTW, what happened to that Linux HLDSUpdatetool on steampowered.com, Alfred? Excuse my bad english, Sincerely, Jakob Andr�en aka aNdreeN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Quillen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Quote from http://www.cs-conditionzero.com/overview.html > The dedicated server is free service by Valve....HAH. Do they not see that > the number of servers directly affects the number of players and in turn the > amount of income? It's nice to see that Valve is concerned for the CS > community enough that long-time faithful server admins are now getting > screwed with an ever declining quality of hlds, and refusal from the > manufacturer to do anything about those problems. That goes back to the > original quote from the cz overview. Sure.... Valve is working closely with > the CS community, just look how cooperative they have been..." Point is, if > you don't like it... Move on.", "Here's an option, stop running it.". Well > if it weren't for us who run the servers, online multiplaying would not > exist. And although no one has ever paid for the server software, all > people who play on the servers and even those who run the servers have > bought a copy of HL/CS. Here's a thought, try some Customer Service....it > works well for a lot of companies. I rent game servers and have decided > based soley on the attitude of correspondance here that I cannot support a > game (Half-Life) that the dedicated server is not fully supported by the > maker. I will also not carry HL2 game servers unless there is a big turn > around in the attitude reflected on the CUSTOMERS who run servers for the > community. > > Good Day, > > Brad Quillen a.k.a. unkNown > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sirius F. Crackhoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 7:09 AM > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Quote from > http://www.cs-conditionzero.com/overview.html > > > > > > You _PAID_ for your client copy of CS, not to run the server. The > hardware, > > bandwidth and time is none of Valve's concern. You get a free service from > > Valve in getting the server software and the updates. > > > > Point is, if you don't like it... Move on. > > > > Sirius > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy > > Brooking > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:30 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Quote from > > http://www.cs-conditionzero.com/overview.html > > > > Sirius F. Crackhoe wrote: > > > > > So as I understand it, you don't like them selling advertising space > > > on the server SOFTWARE that you DID NOT pay for? > > > > > > > > > Hang on, I payed for my copy of CS, I payed for my hardware, I pay for my > > bandwidth, my time goes into this... > > > > Yet afterall that other companies make money off me?? > > > > Exactly the reason why I have taken all my servers down. > > > > Battlefield Vietnam runs great in its place. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
