It's rarely asked of me, but if it does I am more than happy to download
large files for people on the server.  The problem with having shell
access and then giving access to programs such as ftp clients and wget
is people can easily download dodgy software (accidently or not) and
screw up your box.  Such as that post from the modloads.co.uk guy.

Most clans aren't out to have to setup their server from scratch.  They
pay a GSP to manage it for them.  All they want to do is ban people who
kill them in embarrasing ways.

Our basic package has no shell access, but people can upload things etc.
 If they want more then they can switched to shared dedicated servers,
and the top of the range packages they will get shell access as they are
designed for multiple processes.

Although the control panel is a good idea, I think I'll write one!

Frash wrote:
Well you guys think shell is that much of a waste but imagine being like me.
I have a 15KB/Sec upload. I cannot run a server.
If I have to upload everything with FTP, eg a mappack of a few hundred MB's
I got to let my PC on for days to upload that. With SSH I could simply do a
wget and the servers fast connection pulls it down. I have seen no gaming
control panel that does that so far.
FTP is OK for plugins and stuff but for the persons who like a refreshing
mapcycle its a total hell. Also FTP is not that secure if you want to keep
that much control for yourself since you can simply install plugins that
read other files from the server or put a very high ticrate on. Since there
clear guides and distributions only "new admins" will pay twice as much than
a dedicated server to get FTP and some crappy webpanel. (Yes people, you can
have a dedicated box for 70 bucks a month with a Pentium 2.4 500GB b/w plesk
etc. nowadays)

I mean every developed human being can set up a HLDS, even under Linux, now
there is an arsenal of guides. (Thanks to communities like counter-server,
hostinghacks, ev1servers etc.)

I know it isn't a smart move to say this on a list filled with gamingserver
companies but I am ready for your point of view and might learn something of
it :)


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