On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Brian A. Stumm wrote:
> > This has to be the dumbest conversation I've ever seen on this list. I've seen lots of worse conversations, and I try to stick with arguments... But I agree - assertions without substance, like your second "argument", may lead to a dumb conversation... > > Preventing you from playing game you bought: Valve doesn't provide you > with game servers to play on. Never have. You bought a game with > multiplayer support. You can install original hl, cs, dod, etc from disk > and start a lan game in listen server mode with no patches. Go play with > yourself. Valve provided us with the authentication scheme, which they are about to drop. Half-Life/Counter-Strike has been, and it still is, advertised with "Internet" support - playing with yourself might be ok for you, I prefer other people. You can't narrow down multiplayer support to LANs when the worldwide internet community is agreeable one of the unique selling points of Half-Life/Counter-Strike. > > WONless hlds: Breaks the EULA, laws in many countries, noone's gunna run a > master server for players to find you so once again, go play with > yourself. > If you're referencing the steamless cs project, I agree. These people distribute valves copyrighted content, and this is illegal, according to the EULA. If by breaking the EULA you mean Tom�s's no-won patch and paragraph (3) of the EULA, I disagree, as there are laws which grant you to do the things mentioned in that paragraph, no matter what your license agreements with the copyright holder say. This might not be true for the USA, but they're not known for liberal handling of several civil rights for some time now... Regards, Dominic _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
