This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] hi folks
first of all, this mailing list is NOT the place 2 post about vac2, except matters of not runing or starting (bugs) vac2 or beta developing under dedicated linux servers, not for starting a diskussion about efficiency of this ac tool the latest discussion the initiator of this "vac's not updated" thread is talking about, is one interview that was originally shown on one of the biggest counterstrike pages in germany " www.counterstrike.de " it is part four of a series of interviews puplished since november 2005 having discussions and Q&A with one of the most known cheatcoders in europe, the coder of the official anti cheat tool of the esl (germany's and almost in all parts of europe biggest league) aequitas, and also (what startet this discussion here) an interview with one another cheatcoder that included one leaking function to get statistic informations about people using his cheat and to determine wich function his customers are using and for a kind of quality assurance^^ the same leak funktion had been used by other coders after their cheats were hacked^^ by other cheatcoders to post them for free use (for free-->there are standart prices for this kind of cheats 50-150 euro) so he was able to detect people that did not pay for his cheat the side effect of this leaking function is that there are huge databases, filled with outrageous numbers of steam id's showing when, were and which function of the cheat has been used in this interview the cheatcoder was asked about his opinion of vac2 including his answer he pinned the date 17 th of dec 2005 as the last date vac2 had been updated, including new detections also in his answer regarding vac2 he says that the detection of vac2 is not innovative or even effective in other parts of this interview series and also in similar reports on other counterstrike pages, they are all almost telling the same, the few numbers of vac2 banned people are only "noobs" looking on cheat pages found by google and yahoo, cheats that got coded months ago, been updated several times in the database of only one of this cheat coders were about 29.000 (twentyninethousand) different steam id's using only his cheat since october 2005 this is whats all about this diskussion i can understand what was the reason for sirtom to start this, but this is truly the wrong way here why do you think the company behind the esl (turtle entertainment in cologne) is not starting communication regarding this issue into valves direction, but coding an ac tool by themselves? the problem of all multiplayer games is the necessary netcode is there an code ... you are able to manipulate this code if someone want's more detailed information about this interview series regarding europe/germany, you are free 2 mail me (english, german, turkish language possible) regards grammaton782 -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
