At least: thank you very much for this summary ;) Maybe it isn't the right place, but at least we know, that (nearly) nothing happens. I think I'm going to contact the CD developers, asking for a cooperation with some leagues I have a bit influence in... (small but - you never know)
[email protected] schrieb am 17.02.06 01:56:01: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > hi folks > > first of all, this mailing list is NOT the place 2 post about vac2, except > matters of not runing or starting (bugs) vac2 or beta developing under > dedicated linux servers, not for starting a diskussion about efficiency of > this ac tool > > > the latest discussion the initiator of this "vac's not updated" thread is > talking about, is one interview that was originally shown on one of the > biggest counterstrike pages in germany " www.counterstrike.de " > > it is part four of a series of interviews puplished since november 2005 > > having discussions and Q&A with one of the most known cheatcoders in europe, > the coder of the official anti cheat tool of the esl (germany's and almost in > all parts of europe biggest league) aequitas, and also (what startet this > discussion here) an interview with one another cheatcoder that included one > leaking function > to get statistic informations about people using his cheat and to determine > wich function his customers are using and for a kind of quality assurance^^ > the same leak funktion had been used by other coders after their cheats were > hacked^^ by other cheatcoders to post them for free use > (for free-->there are standart prices for this kind of cheats 50-150 euro) > so he was able to detect people that did not pay for his cheat > > the side effect of this leaking function is that there are huge databases, > filled with outrageous numbers of steam id's showing when, were and which > function of the cheat has been used > > in this interview the cheatcoder was asked about his opinion of vac2 > > including his answer he pinned the date 17 th of dec 2005 as the last date > vac2 had been updated, including new detections > > also in his answer regarding vac2 he says that the detection of vac2 is not > innovative or even effective > > in other parts of this interview series and also in similar reports on other > counterstrike pages, they are all almost telling the same, the few numbers of > vac2 banned people are only "noobs" looking on cheat pages found by google > and yahoo, cheats that got coded months ago, been updated several times > > in the database of only one of this cheat coders were about 29.000 > (twentyninethousand) different steam id's using only his cheat since > october 2005 > > this is whats all about this diskussion > > i can understand what was the reason for sirtom to start this, > but this is truly the wrong way here > why do you think the company behind the esl (turtle entertainment in cologne) > is not starting communication regarding this issue into valves direction, but > coding an ac tool by themselves? > the problem of all multiplayer games is the necessary netcode > > is there an code ... you are able to manipulate this code > > if someone want's more detailed information about this interview series > regarding europe/germany, you are free 2 mail me (english, german, turkish > language possible) > > regards > > grammaton782 > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
