Dear Mr. Gates,

You seem like a smart man.  Would you mind so very much trying to make a 
browser that doesn't suck?

Sincerely, Drek

Having got that off my chest.  Honestly, it's my last vent...

Declaring font-size: 0px; had no effect.  Floating divs right and left 
just completely screwed things up and had no effect on the problem.  I'm 
noticing the left border is also one px in width short.  My doctype is 
as follows.  I tried various combinations of margins and absolute, fixed 
and relative positioning, with no effect on the problem.

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" 
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";>
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xml:lang="en" lang="en">

As far as I know I need to use this doctype in order to use positioning 
with IE.  At least that has been my experience.  Should I try strict xhtml?

Drek

Patrick Shelley wrote:
> try declaring font-size:0px; as sometimes this affects positioning.
>
> Also what doctype are you declaring?
>
> Also try using a div wrapper and floating the corner divs to the left and
> right
>
> Regards,
>
> Patrick
>
> On 11/18/08, Crazy Canucks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Let's all get together and sing a rousing chorus of, "Oh how I hate
>> Internet Explorer!" *deep breath*
>>
>> I searched the archives (that's one good thing that came out of this, I
>> actually know where to go to search the archives now), and I couldn't
>> find anything on this issue.  I tried the "fix" below and it did
>> nothing.  I've tried all kinds of combinations of padding and margins
>> and different right/left/top/bottom values, all with no effect.
>>
>> If someone could please put me out of my misery and tell me how to fix
>> this problem.  The images are being shifted to the left and up one pixel
>> somehow, but it isn't as simple as that, because they somehow being
>> stretched by one pixel as well in those directions, and I can't figure
>> out how to fix it.
>>
>> Here is the relevant code in my motd.
>>
>> [style]
>> #corner_tl { position: fixed; top: 0; left: 0; }
>> #corner_tr { position: fixed; top: 0; right: 0; }
>> #corner_bl { position: fixed; bottom: 0; left: 0; }
>> #corner_br { position: fixed; bottom: 0; right: 0; }
>>
>> [body]
>> <div id="corner_tl"><img height="44" width="44"
>> src="images/cc_cg_tl.gif" alt="" /></div>
>> <div id="corner_tr"><img height="44" width="44"
>> src="images/cc_cg_tr.gif" alt="" /></div>
>> <div id="corner_bl"><img height="44" width="44"
>> src="images/cc_cg_bl.gif" alt="" /></div>
>> <div id="corner_br"><img height="44" width="44"
>> src="images/cc_cg_br.gif" alt="" /></div>
>>
>> This page is hosted externally and loaded in a frame.
>>
>> Drek
>>
>>
>> Guy Watkins wrote:
>>     
>>> I found this.  I hope it helps.
>>>
>>> } -----Original Message-----
>>> } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux-
>>> } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bl4nk
>>> } Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:44 PM
>>> } To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>> } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D - host.txt and motd.txt
>>> }
>>> } At 1280x1024, the banner is 574x115 pixels. You have to push the image
>>> } down and over 1 pixel for it to align properly inside of the space
>>> } provided though. This is pretty easy to do, but here's a quick sample
>>>       
>> on
>>     
>>> } how to do it with simple html/css:
>>> }
>>> } <html>
>>> } <body style="margin:0; padding:1px;">
>>> }     <img src="l4d-banner.png">
>>> } </body>
>>> } </html>
>>>
>>> Guy
>>>
>>> } -----Original Message-----
>>> } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux-
>>> } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crazy Canucks
>>> } Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:26 PM
>>> } To: Valve Linux Server Mailing List
>>> } Subject: [hlds_linux] MOTD Questions
>>> }
>>> } Is there a cvar which governs the size of the motd?  I seem to have
>>>       
>> come
>>     
>>> } up against a size limitation in my motd.  Or is it better to create a
>>> } frame and load the motd in that?
>>> }
>>> } For now I've gone with the frame.  I've got four corner graphics, gifs
>>> } with transparencies, 64 colours, optimized.  All but one of the
>>>       
>> graphics
>>     
>>> } are showing slight distortions, as if they are being resized.  But I've
>>> } set the height and width properties properly for the images.  I've
>>> } checked and double checked that.
>>> }
>>> } I'm wondering if it is a driver issue.  The server won't be running
>>> } until the weekend, so I won't be able to check that before then, unless
>>> } someone else has an idea.  When I say "distorted" I'm not talking about
>>> } blurriness, I'm talking about sections of the graphic being offset from
>>> } the rest of the graphic.
>>> }
>>> } Anyway, it doesn't look absolutely awful, I can live with it, but I
>>> } wouldn't mind knowing what is going on.
>>> }
>>> } Cheers, Drek
>>> }
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