As someone else said, you can lock performance affecting cvars in the command line to prevent their later abuse or alteration. sys_ticrate, fps_max, perhaps hostname branding, all sorts of items that a host might want to enforce. By all means, ban it on client side...but it should be available on the server side. If they don't re-enable it, then they need to set variables like that to command line only control.
Ronny Schedel wrote: > If you don't use the command server side, then it is not blocked server > side, even if it really is. I don't see any sense to use alias server side. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph Laws" <[email protected]> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:10 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Problem with "alias" > > > So why block it on the server-side? :) > > Ronny Schedel wrote: > >> alias is used client side. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joseph Laws" <[email protected]> >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 7:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Problem with "alias" >> >> >> Exploits from the server side? >> >> AnAkIn . wrote: >> >> >>> They did that to fix some exploits that were allowed by doing this. >>> >>> 2009/5/22 Rodrigo Peña <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Blocking commands with alias was very useful... >>>> >>>> please valve put it back again :) >>>> >>>> -Rodrigo >>>> >>>> >>>> Thomas Kalman escribió: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thats inconvinient.. any other suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> Is Valve fixing it? >>>>> >>>>> Could a Valve developer make a statement on that particular topic!? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Well, you could still limit the FPS/ticrate by changing the kernel HZ? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2009/5/22 Joseph Laws <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> That's unfortunate because they allow so many resource intensive >>>>>>> settings to be controlled through rcon. I wouldn't find blocking >>>>>>> alias >>>>>>> as a big deal if sys_ticrate (HL1) and fps_max (HL2) weren't rcon >>>>>>> controlled variables. VALVe...can you force those variables to be >>>>>>> command line only since you've decided to block the Alias function a >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> lot >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> of people use to enforce fps limitations? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> AnAkIn . wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's done on purpose. See the changelog: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Prevent creating aliases using the same name as existing cvars >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2009/5/22 Thomas Kalman <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Using Pentium II Optimised binary. >>>>>>>>> Auto-restarting the server on crash >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Console initialized. >>>>>>>>> Protocol version 48 >>>>>>>>> Exe version 1.1.2.6/Stdio (cstrike) >>>>>>>>> Exe build: 18:05:13 Oct 24 2008 (4383) >>>>>>>>> STEAM Auth Server >>>>>>>>> couldn't exec language.cfg >>>>>>>>> Alias name is invalid <<<<---- zB. +sys_ticrate force >>>>>>>>> Alias name is invalid <<<<---- zB. +sv_stats force >>>>>>>>> Server IP address xx:27015 >>>>>>>>> Adding master server 72.165.61.189:27010 >>>>>>>>> Adding master server 68.142.72.250:27010 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Server logging data to file logs/L0xxx000.log >>>>>>>>> Connection to Steam servers successful. >>>>>>>>> VAC secure mode is activated. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Since the latest updates, the +alias cvars don't have any effect on >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> forcing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> cvar's like ticrate or other cvar's.. Is it on purpose or will it >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> fixed? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Or is there a work arround? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thomas >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> archives, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2128 - Release Date: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> 05/22/09 06:03:00 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Message: 9 >>>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:17:06 +0200 >>>>>> From: "Daniel Vogel" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available >>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> Message-ID: <16fc156e5c2d4157a2123214d3cb8...@vertrix> >>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>>>>> reply-type=original >>>>>> >>>>>> The sawmill arena map is not even finished (is this an alpha >>>>>> release?). >>>>>> The >>>>>> control point is called "TODO: Set name" *laugh*. I like capturing >>>>>> TODO: >>>>>> Set >>>>>> name. >>>>>> NOT - FUNNY! >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> From: "Claudio Beretta" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 5:38 PM >>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a good update if compared to the previous: servers do not >>>>>>> crash >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> time :-DEverything got smooth for me: downloaded at 60Mbit/s, servers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> up >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> no time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Daniel Vogel <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have like 7 flare guns. Srsly, every update is getting worse and >>>>>>>> worse. >>>>>>>> VALVe, what are you doing? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> End of hlds_linux Digest, Vol 15, Issue 51 >>>>>> ****************************************** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> please visit: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2128 - Release Date: >>> 05/22/09 >>> 06:03:00 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2131 - Release Date: 05/24/09 >> 07:09:00 >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2131 - Release Date: 05/24/09 > 07:09:00 > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
