So why block it on the server-side? :)

Ronny Schedel wrote:
> alias is used client side.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph Laws" <[email protected]>
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 7:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Problem with "alias"
>
>
> Exploits from the server side?
>
> AnAkIn . wrote:
>   
>> They did that to fix some exploits that were allowed by doing this.
>>
>> 2009/5/22 Rodrigo Peña <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Blocking commands with alias was very useful...
>>>
>>> please valve put it back again :)
>>>
>>> -Rodrigo
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas Kalman escribió:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Thats inconvinient.. any other suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Is Valve fixing it?
>>>>
>>>> Could a Valve developer make a statement on that particular topic!?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Well, you could still limit the FPS/ticrate by changing the kernel HZ?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/5/22 Joseph Laws <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> That's unfortunate because they allow so many resource intensive
>>>>>> settings to be controlled through rcon.  I wouldn't find blocking 
>>>>>> alias
>>>>>> as a big deal if sys_ticrate (HL1) and fps_max (HL2) weren't rcon
>>>>>> controlled variables.  VALVe...can you force those variables to be
>>>>>> command line only since you've decided to block the Alias function a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>> lot
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>> of people use to enforce fps limitations?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AnAkIn . wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> It's done on purpose. See the changelog:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prevent creating aliases using the same name as existing cvars
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/5/22 Thomas Kalman <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Using Pentium II Optimised binary.
>>>>>>>> Auto-restarting the server on crash
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Console initialized.
>>>>>>>> Protocol version 48
>>>>>>>> Exe version 1.1.2.6/Stdio (cstrike)
>>>>>>>> Exe build: 18:05:13 Oct 24 2008 (4383)
>>>>>>>> STEAM Auth Server
>>>>>>>> couldn't exec language.cfg
>>>>>>>> Alias name is invalid   <<<<---- zB. +sys_ticrate force
>>>>>>>> Alias name is invalid   <<<<---- zB. +sv_stats force
>>>>>>>> Server IP address xx:27015
>>>>>>>> Adding master server 72.165.61.189:27010
>>>>>>>> Adding master server 68.142.72.250:27010
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Server logging data to file logs/L0xxx000.log
>>>>>>>> Connection to Steam servers successful.
>>>>>>>> VAC secure mode is activated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since the latest updates, the +alias cvars don't have any effect on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> forcing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> cvar's like ticrate or other cvar's..  Is it on purpose or will it 
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> fixed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> Or is there a work arround?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thomas
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>>>>> Message: 9
>>>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:17:06 +0200
>>>>> From: "Daniel Vogel" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list"
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>>>>> The sawmill arena map is not even finished (is this an alpha release?).
>>>>> The
>>>>> control point is called "TODO: Set name" *laugh*. I like capturing 
>>>>> TODO:
>>>>> Set
>>>>> name.
>>>>> NOT - FUNNY!
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Claudio Beretta" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 5:38 PM
>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list"
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> This is a good update if compared to the previous: servers do not 
>>>>>> crash
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> time :-DEverything got smooth for me: downloaded at 60Mbit/s, servers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>> up
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> no time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Daniel Vogel <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> I have like 7 flare guns. Srsly, every update is getting worse and
>>>>>>> worse.
>>>>>>> VALVe, what are you doing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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