I also think that the Steam client needs to lose some "fat". In it's current state I find that it's far too bloated and is far to resource intensive.
I know a lot of people who chose not to activate games through Steam for this reason. By moving to a different browser, they could also cater for Macs, and if they pull this off, they would quickly dominate the Mac gaming Market. I know there are many issues with this, but Valves own content would be incredible on it's own. On 4 Jun 2009, at 17:35, Saul Rennison <[email protected]> wrote: > tl;dr the whole topic but I've investigated this issue before, after > scanning the Source Engine leak, I saw a folder called *QHTM* in the > *VGUI*folder. > > *QHTM* seems like entirely it's own engine, it's very lightweight > and small: > http://www.gipsysoft.com/qhtm/ > > 2009/6/4 ics <[email protected]> > >> Regarding P2P, there is no need for it (yet) because Steam content >> servers seem to be able to cope with current need of bandwidth just >> fine. I looked them time to time on free TF2 weekend when a lot of >> players got on downloading TF2 and there was around 40%-50% use on >> them >> globally at peak times, if you count them all together. Some content >> servers at some countries were on quite heavy use but still worked >> pretty fine, if you believe the graphs on Steam website. >> >> I also manage to dl these days 1MB/s - 1,9 MB/s compared to the old >> days >> 20-90KB/s from Steam content servers. Some files come slower but >> thats >> propably due to their smaller filesize and their count (a lots of >> small >> files). Plus all the content is packed up so it saves some bandwidth >> too. I personally like the current system over P2P a lot. >> >> However, if there is one thing to improve with the current system, >> that >> would be the content servers managing server-side updates. At the >> most >> urgent time when update is out and everyone is downloading the latest >> files to their servers, there is often a lot of "connection reset" >> messages and downloading the patch hangs a lot before it even starts. >> >> -ics >> >> David Kellaway kirjoitti: >>> 2009/6/4 Roman Hatsiev <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Sure thing, this is a key issue of Steam. IE is evil so P2P content >>>> distribution, better server browser and other minor features can >>>> wait >>>> till we finish the holy quest of removing IE dependency from Steam. >>>> Yeah! >>>> >>> >>> There's really no need to troll this discussion. There are numerous >>> reasons why swapping out IE would be a good idea that aren't >>> "Micro$oft are evil!!" kneejerks: >>> >>> - Control over which plugins can be run and at what privilege level >>> (great for security) >>> - Guaranteed consistent rendering behaviour >>> - Increased performance >>> - More features (like rounded corners via CSS) >>> - Support for users who don't have IE installed or available on >>> their >>> PC (they do exist!) >>> - Easier support for guys running Steam on Wine etc. >>> >>> Since Valve don't seem to be doing anything big with the platform or >>> community right now, this would be a good thing to focus on. P2P is >>> mostly pointless when Valve have a world-class server network to >>> handle games (I routinely get 1.2mbps and up from Steam) and custom >>> content is available from dozens of sources (not to mention FastDL >>> on >>> servers), and there isn't really anything else I can see that >>> warrants >>> updating (except maybe giving the server browser more "power user" >>> features like advanced filtering). >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, >> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > > -- > Thanks, > - Saul. > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
