I don't think you even read my past two emails. Are you saying there is something wrong with using the console to "choose" a "specific" server?
Do this for me. Load Left4Dead, open your console and type "openserverbrowser". Hit enter. Click on either "Internet" or "Custom". Voila, a veritable shitton of servers for your gaming pleasure. Do you mean there should be a link, in the main menu, to open the server browser? Simple, add the relative command line option to Steam/Shortcut. As for your second point, I still don't understand what you are trying to say. If you want to play on a server, with friends only, you can either; 1) Make a steam group for you and your friends, set the server GroupID and it will be limited to that group, or; 2) Create a lobby via the menu, set it to "Friends Only" and invite your friends. The current system is easy enough to use. I don't understand what your emails or your point is? Are you talking about this from a server operator or a client point of view? _______________________________________________________ Shane Arnold - [email protected] "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message the war was lost." Jonah Hirsch wrote: > I'm not sure how I can be more clear. > > Before this update, if you wanted to use a specific server, you would use a > search key/ms_force_dedicated_server > Before this update, if you had a group of friends you would make a lobby and > invite everyone to it. > > Did this update improve on either of those methods? Or is it only good for > people who want to join a game by themselves? > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Shane Arnold <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> How do you mean "specific servers"? openserverbrowserr in console will >> open the classic server browser that is included in most (all?) VALVe >> games. If you mean a specific server inside a Steam Group, this is set >> by a group ID in the server config and found through the Steam Group >> Servers. >> >> Making a lobby and only inviting friends is already included in >> Left4Dead by way of Lobby creation and setting it to "Friends Only". >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> _______________________________________________________ >> >> Shane Arnold - [email protected] >> >> "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, the >> horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of a >> messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered message >> the war was lost." >> >> >> >> Jonah Hirsch wrote: >> >>> I'm asking this: >>> >>> What advantage, if any, does the lobby browser give to these groups of >>> people: >>> >>> -People looking for specific servers >>> -People who have friends with whom to make a lobby >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Shane Arnold <[email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> > I have yet to find one, so can someone let me kow what the advantage >>>> of the new system is for people looking for specefic servers >>>> >>>> openserverbrowser, or ms_force_dedicated_server when starting a lobby. >>>> Left4Dead matchmaking is based on Steam Groups. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> people with friends to make a lobby with? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> You mean creating a lobby and making it friends only? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Shane Arnold - [email protected] >>>> >>>> "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, >>>> >> the >> >>>> horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want of >>>> >> a >> >>>> messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered >>>> >> message >> >>>> the war was lost." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jonah Hirsch wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have yet to find one, so can someone let me kow what the advantage >>>>> of the new system is for people looking for specefic servers or people >>>>> with friends to make a lobby with? >>>>> >>>>> On 7/16/09, Shane Arnold <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Groovy update. Cheers for the news Jason. >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Shane Arnold - [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>> >>>>>> horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want >>>>>> >> of >> >>>> a >>>> >>>> >>>>>> messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> message >>>> >>>> >>>>>> the war was lost." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jason Ruymen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Left 4 Dead has been updated to include a lobby browser. This is an >>>>>>> optional update. The lobby browser (under Play Online) will show you >>>>>>> >> a >> >>>>>>> list of optimal games available for you to join. The browser pares >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> down >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> the thousands of lobbies and games currently being played to show you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> best list of games available to you. This list includes official >>>>>>> >> and >> >>>>>>> add-on campaigns, including add-on campaigns you have not yet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> installed, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> making it a great way to discover them. You can filter by >>>>>>> >> difficulty, >> >>>>>>> official and/or add-on campaigns and by lobbies and/or games in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> progress. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> The Play on Steam Group Server screen now displays which Steam group >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> it's >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> searching while updating the list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After calling a vote to change difficulty in game it is now correctly >>>>>>> updated in matchmaking. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Add-on Campaigns: >>>>>>> - When downloading a new version of an add-on and installing it (by >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> double >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> clicking the .VPK file), it will now correctly overwrite the pervious >>>>>>> version, even while Left 4 Dead is currently running. >>>>>>> - Addressed a crash when two mission files with the same name are >>>>>>> installed. >>>>>>> - Steam Group Servers now will now correctly offer download links >>>>>>> >> when >> >>>>>>> running add-on campaigns. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Server: >>>>>>> - The server will now warn if the public or private tags exceed their >>>>>>> limits. Public tags are limited to 63 characters. Private tags used >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> for >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> matchmaking are now limited to 1024 characters. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SDK: >>>>>>> - The VPK tool can now handle campaigns larger than 500MB. >>>>>>> - You can now drop an add-on a VPK file onto the VPK tool to have it >>>>>>> extract it for you. >>>>>>> - Detail.vbsp and lights.rad have been added to the distribution. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Note that the Linux Steam objects have been renamed. This shouldn't >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> cause >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> any issues. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jason >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> >> archives, >> >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux

