I can only speak for myself obviously, but I think its a well overdue feature. I find 'openserverbrowser' to be useless, I can never find any servers which are local or under 150 ms ping. I know there's servers there, because I run one - as well as the many others I know and use which are local to me.
Then when I resort to the auto-match making system I end up in servers anywhere from close (australia) to far (europe and USA)! I don't want to have to rely on an automated system to join me to a game which I'm promptly going to find has a 200+ ping and disconnect from. Seems kinda pointless. So that I guess answers your question: No, it adds nothing for; -People looking for specific servers -People who have friends with whom to make a lobby It gives control to those who are using the match making system but don't want the often bad results it provides. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonah Hirsch" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:46 PM To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Released > Sorry, I should have worded that better. I don't think *many people* > wanted > the features it supplies. > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Jonah Hirsch <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I just want to know what the Lobby Browser really accomplished. I don't >> think anybody wanted what it does. >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Ronny Schedel >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> That is the old behaviour. He don't want to open the console or the >>> server >>> browser. He want's to know what are the improvements of the last update >>> and >>> how can he use it. Again: he don't want to open the console or the >>> server >>> browser. >>> >>> >>> >I don't think you even read my past two emails. >>> > >>> > Are you saying there is something wrong with using the console to >>> > "choose" a "specific" server? >>> > >>> > Do this for me. Load Left4Dead, open your console and type >>> > "openserverbrowser". Hit enter. >>> > >>> > Click on either "Internet" or "Custom". Voila, a veritable shitton of >>> > servers for your gaming pleasure. >>> > >>> > Do you mean there should be a link, in the main menu, to open the >>> > server >>> > browser? Simple, add the relative command line option to >>> > Steam/Shortcut. >>> > >>> > As for your second point, I still don't understand what you are trying >>> > to say. >>> > >>> > If you want to play on a server, with friends only, you can either; >>> > >>> > 1) Make a steam group for you and your friends, set the server GroupID >>> > and it will be limited to that group, or; >>> > 2) Create a lobby via the menu, set it to "Friends Only" and invite >>> > your >>> > friends. >>> > >>> > The current system is easy enough to use. I don't understand what your >>> > emails or your point is? Are you talking about this from a server >>> > operator or a client point of view? >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________________ >>> > >>> > Shane Arnold - [email protected] >>> > >>> > "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a horseshoe, >>> the >>> > horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For want >>> > of >>> a >>> > messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered >>> > message the war was lost." >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Jonah Hirsch wrote: >>> >> I'm not sure how I can be more clear. >>> >> >>> >> Before this update, if you wanted to use a specific server, you would >>> use >>> >> a >>> >> search key/ms_force_dedicated_server >>> >> Before this update, if you had a group of friends you would make a >>> lobby >>> >> and >>> >> invite everyone to it. >>> >> >>> >> Did this update improve on either of those methods? Or is it only >>> >> good >>> >> for >>> >> people who want to join a game by themselves? >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Shane Arnold >>> >> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> How do you mean "specific servers"? openserverbrowserr in console >>> >>> will >>> >>> open the classic server browser that is included in most (all?) >>> >>> VALVe >>> >>> games. If you mean a specific server inside a Steam Group, this is >>> >>> set >>> >>> by a group ID in the server config and found through the Steam Group >>> >>> Servers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Making a lobby and only inviting friends is already included in >>> >>> Left4Dead by way of Lobby creation and setting it to "Friends Only". >>> >>> >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> Shane Arnold - [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a >>> >>> horseshoe, >>> >>> the >>> >>> horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For >>> >>> want >>> of >>> >>> a >>> >>> messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an undelivered >>> >>> message >>> >>> the war was lost." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Jonah Hirsch wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I'm asking this: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> What advantage, if any, does the lobby browser give to these groups >>> of >>> >>>> people: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -People looking for specific servers >>> >>>> -People who have friends with whom to make a lobby >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Shane Arnold < >>> [email protected] >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> > I have yet to find one, so can someone let me kow what the >>> >>>>> advantage >>> >>>>> of the new system is for people looking for specefic servers >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> openserverbrowser, or ms_force_dedicated_server when starting a >>> lobby. >>> >>>>> Left4Dead matchmaking is based on Steam Groups. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> people with friends to make a lobby with? >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> You mean creating a lobby and making it friends only? >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> _______________________________________________________ >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Shane Arnold - [email protected] >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a >>> horseshoe, >>> >>>>> >>> >>> the >>> >>> >>> >>>>> horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For >>> want >>> >>>>> of >>> >>>>> >>> >>> a >>> >>> >>> >>>>> messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an >>> >>>>> undelivered >>> >>>>> >>> >>> message >>> >>> >>> >>>>> the war was lost." >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Jonah Hirsch wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>> I have yet to find one, so can someone let me kow what the >>> advantage >>> >>>>>> of the new system is for people looking for specefic servers or >>> >>>>>> people >>> >>>>>> with friends to make a lobby with? >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> On 7/16/09, Shane Arnold <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Groovy update. Cheers for the news Jason. >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________________ >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Shane Arnold - [email protected] >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> "For want of a nail, the horseshoe was lost. For want of a >>> >>>>>>> horseshoe, >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>> the >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>> horse was lost. For want of a horse, the messenger was lost. For >>> >>>>>>> want >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> of >>> >>> >>> >>>>> a >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>> messenger, the message was not delivered. For want of an >>> undelivered >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>> message >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>> the war was lost." >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Jason Ruymen wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Left 4 Dead has been updated to include a lobby browser. This >>> >>>>>>>> is >>> >>>>>>>> an >>> >>>>>>>> optional update. The lobby browser (under Play Online) will >>> >>>>>>>> show >>> >>>>>>>> you >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>> a >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> list of optimal games available for you to join. The browser >>> pares >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>> down >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> the thousands of lobbies and games currently being played to >>> >>>>>>>> show >>> >>>>>>>> you >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>> the >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> best list of games available to you. This list includes >>> official >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>> and >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> add-on campaigns, including add-on campaigns you have not yet >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>> installed, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> making it a great way to discover them. You can filter by >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>> difficulty, >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> official and/or add-on campaigns and by lobbies and/or games in >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>> progress. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> The Play on Steam Group Server screen now displays which Steam >>> >>>>>>>> group >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>> it's >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> searching while updating the list. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> After calling a vote to change difficulty in game it is now >>> >>>>>>>> correctly >>> >>>>>>>> updated in matchmaking. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Add-on Campaigns: >>> >>>>>>>> - When downloading a new version of an add-on and installing it >>> (by >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>> double >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> clicking the .VPK file), it will now correctly overwrite the >>> >>>>>>>> pervious >>> >>>>>>>> version, even while Left 4 Dead is currently running. >>> >>>>>>>> - Addressed a crash when two mission files with the same name >>> >>>>>>>> are >>> >>>>>>>> installed. >>> >>>>>>>> - Steam Group Servers now will now correctly offer download >>> >>>>>>>> links >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>> when >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> running add-on campaigns. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Server: >>> >>>>>>>> - The server will now warn if the public or private tags exceed >>> >>>>>>>> their >>> >>>>>>>> limits. Public tags are limited to 63 characters. Private >>> >>>>>>>> tags >>> >>>>>>>> used >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>> for >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> matchmaking are now limited to 1024 characters. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> SDK: >>> >>>>>>>> - The VPK tool can now handle campaigns larger than 500MB. >>> >>>>>>>> - You can now drop an add-on a VPK file onto the VPK tool to >>> >>>>>>>> have >>> >>>>>>>> it >>> >>>>>>>> extract it for you. >>> >>>>>>>> - Detail.vbsp and lights.rad have been added to the >>> >>>>>>>> distribution. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Note that the Linux Steam objects have been renamed. This >>> >>>>>>>> shouldn't >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>> cause >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> any issues. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Jason >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>> archives, >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> please visit: >>> >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> >>>>>>> archives, >>> >>>>>>> please visit: >>> >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, >>> >>>>> please visit: >>> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> >>> archives, >>> >>> please visit: >>> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> > please visit: >>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jonah Hirsch >> ----------------------- >> Sent from my BlackBerry >> > > > > -- > Jonah Hirsch > ----------------------- > Sent from Irvine, California, United States > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
