And unfortunately, most of the money going into the mannconomy is money that used to be going to servers in the form of donations, making it harder for people to operate midlevel, and even higher level servers. (levels assigned by popularity)
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Björn Rohlén Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 00:58 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Free to Play - Infinite piles of cheaters and griefers? AnAkIn et al. should stop running nice servers until Valve shapes up. This has been a complete disaster on so many levels, even though their influx of monetary funds into the "Mannconomy" probably tells the shareholders otherwise. Right. Boo. -TheG On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:36 AM, James Puckett < [email protected]> wrote: > I have a static ip provided free of charge to me. Then again, not every ISP > is a good ISP. > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:23 PM, hlds <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I doubt that Valve took any measures regarding infinite free accounts. > > > > Currently is quite impossible to ban a F2P player because it can create > > anytime a new account and in some countries most of them have dynamic > IPs. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: AnAkIn . > > Sent: 07/27/11 02:34 AM > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Free to Play - Infinite piles of cheaters and > > griefers? > > > > There is a very popular public cheat that people are using since months > (I > > know some people who are using it since April - no VAC bans) and is still > > not VAC detected. I have already reported it to Valve few weeks ago, and > > they still haven't done anything. There are new people using it on my > > servers every day. One of them is creating a new steam account every time > I > > ban him, he then comes back and start cheating again. I'm afraid these > > "infinite free accounts" measures that Valve has taken according to the > F2P > > FAQ are totally useless. 2011/6/26 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> > You > > can still use DBlocker against cheaters, even if it won't detect all of > > > them, it will detect some. > > http://dblocker.didrole.com/ > > > > > 2011/6/24 msleeper <[email protected]> > >> I would pay top > > dollar* for a SM plugin that disables shit like voice >> chat and sprays > for > > free accounts. Or a cvar that disallows free >> accounts from joining the > > server. I think there is already 1 plugin >> that kicks them. >> >> * I > will > > not pay any money for plugins, ever. >> >> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:39 > > AM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Besides the fact that VAC > is > > crap and doesn't work for an inordinately >> large >> >> amount of > > cheating/hacking we see on our servers, what about all the >> bans in >> > >> > > our sourcebans database against griefers, who aren't eligible for a VAC > >> > > ban, >> >> or the racist douchebags we permban on a daily basis? What > about > > the >> people >> >> who spray porn and goatse all over our servers while > we > > attempt to keep >> the >> >> activity on our servers at least slightly > above > > the retard line? >> >> >> >> I guess the good sourcemod devs are going to > > have to get together to >> find a >> >> way of identifying new ways to > ban > > people based on what information it >> is >> >> possible to gather about > a > > person's computer that is unique (or at >> least >> >> close enough to > > unique). >> >> >> >> --Matt >> >> >> >> On 06/24/2011 01:30 AM, Richard > Eid > > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> In the FAQ, Valve mentioned that they're working on > > something to >> battle >> >>> this. My guess is that they'll probably try > to > > track the patterns of >> >>> people >> >>> who start to do this, so the > > system can quickly recognize those same >> >>> patterns in the future and > be > > a little more proactive instead of >> reactive. >> >>> I think Steam > Guard > > could help a little here, too. IP addresses can >> >>> easily >> >>> be > > changed, new free accounts can be made, etc... But Steam Guard is >> tied > >> > > >>> to your PC so it could(maybe) be used to verify clients on your >> > > server. >> >>> People only have so many PCs they can use. >> >>> >> >>> > > Either way, I'm sure we'll be filled in on the details as soon as >> > Valve > > >> >>> has >> >>> something to announce. >> >>> >> >>> -Richard Eid >> > >>> > > >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Flubber<[email protected] > > > > wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> You keeding, we got VAC, the most powerful tools > > against cheating. :D >> >>>> >> >>>> 2011/6/24 Octo< > > [email protected]> >> >>>> >> >>>>> I always felt like we saw > a > > surge in cheaters and griefers directly >> >>>>> after >> >>>> >> >>>> a > >> > > >>>>> >> >>>>> super cheap sale of TF2. Now that TF2 has went Free to > Play > > is >> there >> >>>> >> >>>> going >> >>>>> >> >>>>> to be anything to try > to > > limit how many steam accounts a cheater can >> >>>> >> >>>> create? >> > >>>>> > > >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, > >> > > >>>>> please visit: >> >>>>> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >>>>> >> > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >> >>>> To unsubscribe, > edit > > your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> >>>> please > visit: > > >> >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >>>> > > >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> To > > unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > >>> > > please visit: >> >>> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> >> >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, > > edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please > visit: > > >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Michelle Sleeper >> > > > http://www.ThinkingWithPortals.com/ >> > Portal 2 Mapping Community >> > > > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, > > edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > > -- > > > > Best regards, > AnAkIn, > ------------- > ESL EU TF2 Admin > > > http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 > > -- Best regards, AnAkIn, ------------- ESL > EU > > TF2 Admin > http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2_______________________________________________ To > unsubscribe, edit your > > list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
