I've never gathered donations for running servers or community. I've paid the bills myself so that i and others can just play and enjoy the games. So if you donation count has gone down, perhaps your regulars have stopped funding you because basically you have now more possible donators than before playing at your servers. Perhaps you should pay up more yourself if you want to keep servers running and not switching the blame on mannconomy. I love f2p update. It filled up our servers for even more than ever.
----- Alkuperäinen viesti ----- > And unfortunately, most of the money going into the mannconomy is money > that used to be going to servers in the form of donations, making it > harder for people to operate midlevel, and even higher level servers. > (levels assigned by popularity) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Björn > Rohlén Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 00:58 > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Free to Play - Infinite piles of cheaters and > griefers? > > AnAkIn et al. should stop running nice servers until Valve shapes up. > This has been a complete disaster on so many levels, even though their > influx of monetary funds into the "Mannconomy" probably tells the > shareholders otherwise. > > Right. Boo. > > -TheG > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:36 AM, James Puckett < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I have a static ip provided free of charge to me. Then again, not every > ISP > > is a good ISP. > > > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:23 PM, hlds <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I doubt that Valve took any measures regarding infinite free > > > accounts. > > > > > > Currently is quite impossible to ban a F2P player because it can > > > create anytime a new account and in some countries most of them have > > > dynamic > > IPs. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: AnAkIn . > > > Sent: 07/27/11 02:34 AM > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Free to Play - Infinite piles of cheaters > > > and griefers? > > > > > > There is a very popular public cheat that people are using since > > > months > > (I > > > know some people who are using it since April - no VAC bans) and is > still > > > not VAC detected. I have already reported it to Valve few weeks ago, > > > and they still haven't done anything. There are new people using it > > > on my servers every day. One of them is creating a new steam account > > > every > time > > I > > > ban him, he then comes back and start cheating again. I'm afraid > > > these "infinite free accounts" measures that Valve has taken > > > according to the > > F2P > > > FAQ are totally useless. 2011/6/26 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> > > > > You can still use DBlocker against cheaters, even if it won't detect > > > all of > > > > > them, it will detect some. > > http://dblocker.didrole.com/ > > > > > > 2011/6/24 msleeper <[email protected]> > >> I would pay > > > top dollar* for a SM plugin that disables shit like voice >> chat > > > and sprays > > for > > > free accounts. Or a cvar that disallows free >> accounts from joining > the > > > server. I think there is already 1 plugin >> that kicks them. >> >> > > > * I > > will > > > not pay any money for plugins, ever. >> >> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at > 3:39 > > > AM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Besides the fact that > > > VAC > > is > > > crap and doesn't work for an inordinately >> large >> >> amount of > > > cheating/hacking we see on our servers, what about all the >> bans > > > in >> > > > > > > > our sourcebans database against griefers, who aren't eligible for a > > > VAC > > > > > > > ban, >> >> or the racist douchebags we permban on a daily basis? What > > about > > > the >> people >> >> who spray porn and goatse all over our servers > > > while > > we > > > attempt to keep >> the >> >> activity on our servers at least > > > slightly > > above > > > the retard line? >> >> >> >> I guess the good sourcemod devs are > > > going > to > > > have to get together to >> find a >> >> way of identifying new ways > > > to > > ban > > > people based on what information it >> is >> >> possible to gather > > > about > > a > > > person's computer that is unique (or at >> least >> >> close enough > > > to unique). >> >> >> >> --Matt >> >> >> >> On 06/24/2011 01:30 AM, > > > Richard > > Eid > > > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> In the FAQ, Valve mentioned that they're > > > working on something to >> battle >> >>> this. My guess is that > > > they'll probably > try > > to > > > track the patterns of >> >>> people >> >>> who start to do this, so > > > the system can quickly recognize those same >> >>> patterns in the > > > future > and > > be > > > a little more proactive instead of >> reactive. >> >>> I think Steam > > Guard > > > could help a little here, too. IP addresses can >> >>> easily >> >>> > > > be changed, new free accounts can be made, etc... But Steam Guard is > > > >> > tied > > > > > > > > > > to your PC so it could(maybe) be used to verify clients on > > > > > > your >> > > > server. >> >>> People only have so many PCs they can use. >> >>> >> > > > >>> Either way, I'm sure we'll be filled in on the details as soon > > > as >> > > Valve > > > > > > > > has >> >>> something to announce. >> >>> >> >>> -Richard > > > > > > > > Eid >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:15 AM, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Flubber<[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> You keeding, we got VAC, the most powerful > > > tools against cheating. :D >> >>>> >> >>>> 2011/6/24 Octo< > > > [email protected]> >> >>>> >> >>>>> I always felt like we > > > saw > > a > > > surge in cheaters and griefers directly >> >>>>> after >> >>>> >> > > > >>>> a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > super cheap sale of TF2. Now that TF2 has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > went Free to > > Play > > > is >> there >> >>>> >> >>>> going >> >>>>> >> >>>>> to be anything to > try > > to > > > limit how many steam accounts a cheater can >> >>>> >> >>>> create? > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, > > > > > > > > > > > > please visit: >> >>>>> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >>>>> >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> >>>> To > > > unsubscribe, > > edit > > > your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> >>>> please > > visit: > > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> >>> To > > > unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > >> > > > > > > > > please visit: >> >>> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> >> To > > > > > unsubscribe, > > > edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please > > visit: > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > Michelle Sleeper >> > > > > http://www.ThinkingWithPortals.com/ >> > Portal 2 Mapping Community > > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> To > > > > > > > unsubscribe, > > > edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please > > > visit: > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Best regards, > AnAkIn, > ------------- > ESL EU TF2 Admin > > > > http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 > > -- Best regards, AnAkIn, ------------- > > > ESL > > EU > > > TF2 Admin > > http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2_______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your > > > list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
