Just for the sake of some positive feedback, our community loves the F2P choice VALVe made, and it has put TF2 back on the map.
A lot of our players who stopped playing TF2 have now returned because the games became enjoyable again. Saint K. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Björn Rohlén [[email protected]] Sent: 27 July 2011 09:57 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Free to Play - Infinite piles of cheaters and griefers? AnAkIn et al. should stop running nice servers until Valve shapes up. This has been a complete disaster on so many levels, even though their influx of monetary funds into the "Mannconomy" probably tells the shareholders otherwise. Right. Boo. -TheG On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:36 AM, James Puckett < [email protected]> wrote: > I have a static ip provided free of charge to me. Then again, not every ISP > is a good ISP. > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:23 PM, hlds <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I doubt that Valve took any measures regarding infinite free accounts. > > > > Currently is quite impossible to ban a F2P player because it can create > > anytime a new account and in some countries most of them have dynamic > IPs. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: AnAkIn . > > Sent: 07/27/11 02:34 AM > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Free to Play - Infinite piles of cheaters and > > griefers? > > > > There is a very popular public cheat that people are using since months > (I > > know some people who are using it since April - no VAC bans) and is still > > not VAC detected. I have already reported it to Valve few weeks ago, and > > they still haven't done anything. There are new people using it on my > > servers every day. One of them is creating a new steam account every time > I > > ban him, he then comes back and start cheating again. I'm afraid these > > "infinite free accounts" measures that Valve has taken according to the > F2P > > FAQ are totally useless. 2011/6/26 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> > You > > can still use DBlocker against cheaters, even if it won't detect all of > > > them, it will detect some. > > http://dblocker.didrole.com/ > > > > > 2011/6/24 msleeper <[email protected]> > >> I would pay top > > dollar* for a SM plugin that disables shit like voice >> chat and sprays > for > > free accounts. Or a cvar that disallows free >> accounts from joining the > > server. I think there is already 1 plugin >> that kicks them. >> >> * I > will > > not pay any money for plugins, ever. >> >> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:39 > > AM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Besides the fact that VAC > is > > crap and doesn't work for an inordinately >> large >> >> amount of > > cheating/hacking we see on our servers, what about all the >> bans in >> > >> > > our sourcebans database against griefers, who aren't eligible for a VAC > >> > > ban, >> >> or the racist douchebags we permban on a daily basis? What > about > > the >> people >> >> who spray porn and goatse all over our servers while > we > > attempt to keep >> the >> >> activity on our servers at least slightly > above > > the retard line? >> >> >> >> I guess the good sourcemod devs are going to > > have to get together to >> find a >> >> way of identifying new ways to > ban > > people based on what information it >> is >> >> possible to gather about > a > > person's computer that is unique (or at >> least >> >> close enough to > > unique). >> >> >> >> --Matt >> >> >> >> On 06/24/2011 01:30 AM, Richard > Eid > > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> In the FAQ, Valve mentioned that they're working on > > something to >> battle >> >>> this. My guess is that they'll probably try > to > > track the patterns of >> >>> people >> >>> who start to do this, so the > > system can quickly recognize those same >> >>> patterns in the future and > be > > a little more proactive instead of >> reactive. >> >>> I think Steam > Guard > > could help a little here, too. IP addresses can >> >>> easily >> >>> be > > changed, new free accounts can be made, etc... But Steam Guard is >> tied > >> > > >>> to your PC so it could(maybe) be used to verify clients on your >> > > server. >> >>> People only have so many PCs they can use. >> >>> >> >>> > > Either way, I'm sure we'll be filled in on the details as soon as >> > Valve > > >> >>> has >> >>> something to announce. >> >>> >> >>> -Richard Eid >> > >>> > > >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Flubber<[email protected] > > > > wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> You keeding, we got VAC, the most powerful tools > > against cheating. :D >> >>>> >> >>>> 2011/6/24 Octo< > > [email protected]> >> >>>> >> >>>>> I always felt like we saw > a > > surge in cheaters and griefers directly >> >>>>> after >> >>>> >> >>>> a > >> > > >>>>> >> >>>>> super cheap sale of TF2. Now that TF2 has went Free to > Play > > is >> there >> >>>> >> >>>> going >> >>>>> >> >>>>> to be anything to try > to > > limit how many steam accounts a cheater can >> >>>> >> >>>> create? >> > >>>>> > > >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, > >> > > >>>>> please visit: >> >>>>> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >>>>> >> > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >> >>>> To unsubscribe, > edit > > your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> >>>> please > visit: > > >> >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >>>> > > >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> To > > unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > >>> > > please visit: >> >>> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> >> >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, > > edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please > visit: > > >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> > > > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Michelle Sleeper >> > > > http://www.ThinkingWithPortals.com/ >> > Portal 2 Mapping Community >> > > > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, > > edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > > -- > > > > Best regards, > AnAkIn, > ------------- > ESL EU TF2 Admin > > > http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 > > -- Best regards, AnAkIn, ------------- ESL > EU > > TF2 Admin > http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2_______________________________________________ To > unsubscribe, edit your > > list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
