It would be nice if there was some way for players to donate to server
operators in-game, similar to the map stamps in the TF2 Mann Co Store.
I have no idea how Valve would work that out though. Even if it was
just to take a big commission and transfer it to registered paypal
accounts, that would be better than nothing.
It's just a matter of convenience. If it's convenient and easy to give
$1.00 or 25 cents, people will do it. If it's inconvenient, customers
won't bother throwing you a penny... which is why people hate pennies;
they are not even worth their own value.
ics wrote:
I've never gathered donations for running servers or community. I've paid the
bills myself so that i and others can just play and enjoy the games. So if you
donation count has gone down, perhaps your regulars have stopped funding you
because basically you have now more possible donators than before playing at
your servers. Perhaps you should pay up more yourself if you want to keep
servers running and not switching the blame on mannconomy. I love f2p update.
It filled up our servers for even more than ever.
----- Alkuperäinen viesti -----
And unfortunately, most of the money going into the mannconomy is money
that used to be going to servers in the form of donations, making it
harder for people to operate midlevel, and even higher level servers.
(levels assigned by popularity)
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Björn
Rohlén Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 00:58
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Free to Play - Infinite piles of cheaters and
griefers?
AnAkIn et al. should stop running nice servers until Valve shapes up.
This has been a complete disaster on so many levels, even though their
influx of monetary funds into the "Mannconomy" probably tells the
shareholders otherwise.
Right. Boo.
-TheG
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:36 AM, James Puckett<
[email protected]> wrote:
I have a static ip provided free of charge to me. Then again, not every
ISP
is a good ISP.
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:23 PM, hlds<[email protected]> wrote:
I doubt that Valve took any measures regarding infinite free
accounts.
Currently is quite impossible to ban a F2P player because it can
create anytime a new account and in some countries most of them have
dynamic
IPs.
----- Original Message -----
From: AnAkIn .
Sent: 07/27/11 02:34 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Free to Play - Infinite piles of cheaters
and griefers?
There is a very popular public cheat that people are using since
months
(I
know some people who are using it since April - no VAC bans) and is
still
not VAC detected. I have already reported it to Valve few weeks ago,
and they still haven't done anything. There are new people using it
on my servers every day. One of them is creating a new steam account
every
time
I
ban him, he then comes back and start cheating again. I'm afraid
these "infinite free accounts" measures that Valve has taken
according to the
F2P
FAQ are totally useless. 2011/6/26 AnAkIn .<[email protected]> >
You can still use DBlocker against cheaters, even if it won't detect
all of
them, it will detect some.> > http://dblocker.didrole.com/> > >
2011/6/24 msleeper<[email protected]> > >> I would pay
top dollar* for a SM plugin that disables shit like voice>> chat
and sprays
for
free accounts. Or a cvar that disallows free>> accounts from joining
the
server. I think there is already 1 plugin>> that kicks them.>> >>
* I
will
not pay any money for plugins, ever.>> >> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at
3:39
AM, Matt<[email protected]> wrote:>> >> Besides the fact that
VAC
is
crap and doesn't work for an inordinately>> large>> >> amount of
cheating/hacking we see on our servers, what about all the>> bans
in>>
our sourcebans database against griefers, who aren't eligible for a
VAC
ban,>> >> or the racist douchebags we permban on a daily basis? What
about
the>> people>> >> who spray porn and goatse all over our servers
while
we
attempt to keep>> the>> >> activity on our servers at least
slightly
above
the retard line?>> >> >> >> I guess the good sourcemod devs are
going
to
have to get together to>> find a>> >> way of identifying new ways
to
ban
people based on what information it>> is>> >> possible to gather
about
a
person's computer that is unique (or at>> least>> >> close enough
to unique).>> >> >> >> --Matt>> >> >> >> On 06/24/2011 01:30 AM,
Richard
Eid
wrote:>> >>> >> >>> In the FAQ, Valve mentioned that they're
working on something to>> battle>> >>> this. My guess is that
they'll probably
try
to
track the patterns of>> >>> people>> >>> who start to do this, so
the system can quickly recognize those same>> >>> patterns in the
future
and
be
a little more proactive instead of>> reactive.>> >>> I think Steam
Guard
could help a little here, too. IP addresses can>> >>> easily>> >>>
be changed, new free accounts can be made, etc... But Steam Guard is
tied
to your PC so it could(maybe) be used to verify clients on
your>>
server.>> >>> People only have so many PCs they can use.>> >>> >>
Either way, I'm sure we'll be filled in on the details as soon
as>>
Valve
has>> >>> something to announce.>> >>> >> >>> -Richard
Eid>>
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:15 AM,
Flubber<[email protected]
wrote:>> >>> >> >>>> You keeding, we got VAC, the most powerful
tools against cheating. :D>> >>>> >> >>>> 2011/6/24 Octo<
[email protected]> >> >>>> >> >>>>> I always felt like we
saw
a
surge in cheaters and griefers directly>> >>>>> after>> >>>> >>
a
super cheap sale of TF2. Now that TF2 has
went Free to
Play
is>> there>> >>>> >> >>>> going>> >>>>> >> >>>>> to be anything to
try
to
limit how many steam accounts a cheater can>> >>>> >> >>>> create?
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