In my country F2P is beneffical but the servers count increased by 2000%. 2011/7/27 ics <[email protected]>
> I've never gathered donations for running servers or community. I've paid > the bills myself so that i and others can just play and enjoy the games. So > if you donation count has gone down, perhaps your regulars have stopped > funding you because basically you have now more possible donators than > before playing at your servers. Perhaps you should pay up more yourself if > you want to keep servers running and not switching the blame on mannconomy. > I love f2p update. It filled up our servers for even more than ever. > > ----- Alkuperäinen viesti ----- > > And unfortunately, most of the money going into the mannconomy is money > > that used to be going to servers in the form of donations, making it > > harder for people to operate midlevel, and even higher level servers. > > (levels assigned by popularity) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Björn > > Rohlén Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 00:58 > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Free to Play - Infinite piles of cheaters and > > griefers? > > > > AnAkIn et al. should stop running nice servers until Valve shapes up. > > This has been a complete disaster on so many levels, even though their > > influx of monetary funds into the "Mannconomy" probably tells the > > shareholders otherwise. > > > > Right. Boo. > > > > -TheG > > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:36 AM, James Puckett < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I have a static ip provided free of charge to me. Then again, not every > > ISP > > > is a good ISP. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:23 PM, hlds <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I doubt that Valve took any measures regarding infinite free > > > > accounts. > > > > > > > > Currently is quite impossible to ban a F2P player because it can > > > > create anytime a new account and in some countries most of them have > > > > dynamic > > > IPs. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: AnAkIn . > > > > Sent: 07/27/11 02:34 AM > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Free to Play - Infinite piles of cheaters > > > > and griefers? > > > > > > > > There is a very popular public cheat that people are using since > > > > months > > > (I > > > > know some people who are using it since April - no VAC bans) and is > > still > > > > not VAC detected. I have already reported it to Valve few weeks ago, > > > > and they still haven't done anything. There are new people using it > > > > on my servers every day. One of them is creating a new steam account > > > > every > > time > > > I > > > > ban him, he then comes back and start cheating again. I'm afraid > > > > these "infinite free accounts" measures that Valve has taken > > > > according to the > > > F2P > > > > FAQ are totally useless. 2011/6/26 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> > > > > > You can still use DBlocker against cheaters, even if it won't detect > > > > all of > > > > > > > them, it will detect some. > > http://dblocker.didrole.com/ > > > > > > > 2011/6/24 msleeper <[email protected]> > >> I would pay > > > > top dollar* for a SM plugin that disables shit like voice >> chat > > > > and sprays > > > for > > > > free accounts. Or a cvar that disallows free >> accounts from joining > > the > > > > server. I think there is already 1 plugin >> that kicks them. >> >> > > > > * I > > > will > > > > not pay any money for plugins, ever. >> >> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at > > 3:39 > > > > AM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Besides the fact that > > > > VAC > > > is > > > > crap and doesn't work for an inordinately >> large >> >> amount of > > > > cheating/hacking we see on our servers, what about all the >> bans > > > > in >> > > > > > > > > > our sourcebans database against griefers, who aren't eligible for a > > > > VAC > > > > > > > > > ban, >> >> or the racist douchebags we permban on a daily basis? What > > > about > > > > the >> people >> >> who spray porn and goatse all over our servers > > > > while > > > we > > > > attempt to keep >> the >> >> activity on our servers at least > > > > slightly > > > above > > > > the retard line? >> >> >> >> I guess the good sourcemod devs are > > > > going > > to > > > > have to get together to >> find a >> >> way of identifying new ways > > > > to > > > ban > > > > people based on what information it >> is >> >> possible to gather > > > > about > > > a > > > > person's computer that is unique (or at >> least >> >> close enough > > > > to unique). >> >> >> >> --Matt >> >> >> >> On 06/24/2011 01:30 AM, > > > > Richard > > > Eid > > > > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> In the FAQ, Valve mentioned that they're > > > > working on something to >> battle >> >>> this. My guess is that > > > > they'll probably > > try > > > to > > > > track the patterns of >> >>> people >> >>> who start to do this, so > > > > the system can quickly recognize those same >> >>> patterns in the > > > > future > > and > > > be > > > > a little more proactive instead of >> reactive. >> >>> I think Steam > > > Guard > > > > could help a little here, too. IP addresses can >> >>> easily >> >>> > > > > be changed, new free accounts can be made, etc... But Steam Guard is > > > > >> > > tied > > > > > > > > > > > > to your PC so it could(maybe) be used to verify clients on > > > > > > > your >> > > > > server. >> >>> People only have so many PCs they can use. >> >>> >> > > > > >>> Either way, I'm sure we'll be filled in on the details as soon > > > > as >> > > > Valve > > > > > > > > > has >> >>> something to announce. >> >>> >> >>> -Richard > > > > > > > > > Eid >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:15 AM, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Flubber<[email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> You keeding, we got VAC, the most powerful > > > > tools against cheating. :D >> >>>> >> >>>> 2011/6/24 Octo< > > > > [email protected]> >> >>>> >> >>>>> I always felt like we > > > > saw > > > a > > > > surge in cheaters and griefers directly >> >>>>> after >> >>>> >> > > > > >>>> a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > super cheap sale of TF2. Now that TF2 has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > went Free to > > > Play > > > > is >> there >> >>>> >> >>>> going >> >>>>> >> >>>>> to be anything to > > try > > > to > > > > limit how many steam accounts a cheater can >> >>>> >> >>>> create? > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > > archives, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please visit: >> >>>>> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >>>>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> >>>> To > > > > unsubscribe, > > > edit > > > > your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> >>>> please > > > visit: > > > > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> >>> To > > > > unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > please visit: >> >>> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> >> To > > > > > > unsubscribe, > > > > edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please > > > visit: > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- >> > Michelle Sleeper >> > > > > > http://www.ThinkingWithPortals.com/ >> > Portal 2 Mapping Community > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ >> To > > > > > > > > unsubscribe, > > > > edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please > > > > visit: > > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Best regards, > AnAkIn, > ------------- > ESL EU TF2 Admin > > > > > http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 > > -- Best regards, AnAkIn, ------------- > > > > ESL > > > EU > > > > TF2 Admin > > > > http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2_______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your > > > > list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
