I'm still surprised at the number of QuickPlay servers that are running things like !rtd mods and instant respawn servers, personally. But that's just me.
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:44 PM, msleeper <[email protected]>wrote: > It is crying, though. Server ops are free to run their servers how > they please, even if you don't like it yourself. Running servers that > promote donations or give certain players enhanced stats is just as > valid as servers running, say, Prop Hunt or Dodgeball or any other > drastically gameplay altering changes. The problem with fake clients > and redirects is that it is negatively affecting the player experience > outside of the game; joining a server that is being advertised as one > thing (being full) when in fact it's something else (actually empty, > or redirecting to a different empty server) is leaps and bounds > difference than running gameplay changing plugins. > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:31 PM, coffee problem <[email protected]> > wrote: > > These are multiple issues. Please don't try to wrap it into one. The > > problem in particular with the ranking system, if you trick a few newbies > > into thinking they are playing with 23 other people for five minutes, > > there's no negative impact on their server's score. Valve knows who is > > running these plugins and isn't doing anything about it. They are just > > playing ignorant on the matter, at least, until something happens that > > forces them to address it. > > > > Please grow up and stop calling it "crying" for wanting Valve to take > > action for a clean community. I'm just expressing concerns. This isn't > Halo. > > > > CP > > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:13 PM, msleeper <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> Fake clients is one thing, and Valve has taken a stance against it > >> with the server score/delisting. The problem here is that this method > >> is not valid with these communities in particular; they're too "well > >> known" to be negatively affected by the scoring/delisting mechanism. > >> Valve needs to take manual action, and they seem ambivalent at best > >> regarding the issue. Doesn't matter what server ops are doing as long > >> as your customers have somewhere to play, right boys? > >> > >> But as for "begging for money" or "selling super powers": cry more. > >> It's not deceiving players, and if players don't like it then they'll > >> leave the server. > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Emil Larsson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Indeed, I hate those fakeplayers servers as anyone else, but I think > it's > >> > better to educate the average user why and how to report those > servers. > >> > > >> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 7:55 PM, ics <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Let the system run couple more weeks. Players will use the report > tool > >> if > >> >> they are aware of it. As a server admin, be very carefull about > >> reporting > >> >> other servers. It might kick you in the face, unless you personally > >> play on > >> >> those other servers and see that they are bad. > >> >> > >> >> -ics > >> >> > >> >> 1.11.2011 20:48, coffee problem kirjoitti: > >> >> > >> >> Hi Saul, > >> >>> > >> >>> I have logged in to report as many as I've had the energy to do > since > >> the > >> >>> reporting feature was implemented. They are still up and running, > also > >> of > >> >>> note: they are still on the 'play now' list even though there are > >> multiple > >> >>> reasons they shouldn't be. The ones I speak of have been de-listed > >> from > >> >>> ranking sites for well over a year, so it is detectable and > well-known > >> who > >> >>> these admins are. > >> >>> > >> >>> Valve is just sitting on their hands with this garbage. They've had > a > >> >>> number of reports brought against servers regarding the Halloween > >> event, > >> >>> and none of these have had any action taken. > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks, > >> >>> CP > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Saul Rennison<saul.rennison@gmail. > >> **com<[email protected]> > >> >>> >wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> This is why they implemented server blacklisting. Report the > server, > >> it > >> >>>> will be delisted. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Kind regards, > >> >>>> *Saul Rennison* > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On 1 November 2011 18:39, coffee problem<spoofedpacket@gmail. > **com< > >> [email protected]>> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> So, this has been brought to light several times in the past and > >> Valve > >> >>>>> ignores anyone's request for even a stance on the matter. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> You've got about five large "communities" built up on false stats, > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> begging > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> for money and trying to deceive new players with server plugins. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> When is Valve going to take a stance or do something about this? > >> What's > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> it > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> going to take to get someone in the company to grow a pair and say > >> >>>>> something? Is it all about the short-term of hats and keys while > >> >>>>> letting > >> >>>>> the community erode? > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> CP > >> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ > >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >> >>>>> please visit: > >> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ > >> >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >> >>>> please visit: > >> >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ > >> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >> >>> please visit: > >> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ______________________________**_________________ > >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >> >> please visit: > >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux< > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> > >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
