There are more players, but also there are a lot more servers :)

What I "like" about quickplay is that servers without damage spread are
disqualified, while a server that allows engineers to build multiple
sentries or to have unlimited metal are more than ok (and I'm not talking
about premium servers). I won't be surprised if one day Valve will sell the
right to use plugins (they said something about ranking and that some
features will be available only for some servers), or even block all server
side plugins.

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TF2 numbers might drop but that's only due to randomers who want to try 
to game getting off and the regulars getting bored. This is natural in 
any game. I used to have couple of months breaks back in teh days when 
you had to wait for the class updates. Only then there was something new 
to play, aside from custom maps.

If i look at the graphs today and compare those to the days before TF2 
went free to play, there's still about 15 000 - 25000 players more than 
back in those days. There's significantly more players now than spring. 
If you have servers emptying, it's not because of lack of players.

-ics

18.12.2011 23:50, Robert Paulson kirjoitti:
> I have already refuted all your claims. TF2 numbers will drop
> precipitously again in a couple weeks or when the game of the month
> comes out. Valve cannot make a large patch like this every month. You
> can see the same trend in the graph for the Halloween update.
>
> I am done replying to you because all I am doing now pasting bite
> sized chunks of what I already wrote because you are selectively
> ignoring anyone that disagrees with you.
>
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 1:42 PM, dan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>> On 18/12/2011 10:28, Robert Paulson wrote:
>>> Can you please explain why CS:S players did not drop during that time
>>> then?
>>
>> No and neither can you. Because we don't have the stats to determine
that.
>>
>> It's clear though that TF2 drops between updates and it seemed to drop
more
>> after Skyrim's phenomenal figures for a time.
>>
>> So it's a guess. Why doesn't CS rely so much? I would say because it's an
>> old game that runs on ancient hardware. I suspect many of people running
it
>> that keep the numbers high don't have the kit to run TF2 or Skyrim and
other
>> modern games, hence they will probably be less affected by releases of
>> modern games. But to tell for sure we'd need data we don't have.
>>
>> But, one thing we do know. TF2 numbers today aren't low, they're high.
And
>> they didn't remove Quickplay.
>>
>> So it seems that your guess that quickplay is killing TF2 was wrong. The
>> evidence today doesn't show it.
>>
>> --
>> Dan.
>>
>>
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