It was also really popular even before Valve officially added it to the game. It's a simple map, but a lot of people liked it, which was probably why Valve added it. The only map addition that have puzzled me is junction, which plays poorly in your typical 12 vs 12 servers (I suspect it was made for 6 vs 6).
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Asher Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > Valve have plenty of dedicated software engineers. > > I happen to really enjoy ctf_turbine :( (it's also nice and > lightweight for debugging plugins). > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 1:44 PM, dan <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 28/12/2012 16:33, ics wrote: > >> > >> Just wanted to say that Valve does care about server owners - but only > >> when it's suitable for their timeframe/timetable or it is required > >> (something big going on). Some of you are still in "fanboyism" stage, > some > >> are "willing to work issues with Valve" and some are past that, "stopped > >> caring". Personally i bump between the last two options. It's just that > >> priorities do not match, which is also natural. > > > > > > Well no, it's just acknowledging what Valve are good at and what they > > aren't. > > > > Valve write games. They're very good at that. As good as anyone else, if > not > > better. > > > > But they hire musicians and artists and creative people and get them to > > cross train to write code. > > > > You wouldn't get in an aeroplane if Gabe made an announcement at E3 that > > they were writing the software for one, would you? > > I bet that would put a terrorist off of catching the flight. > > > > If our lives depended on TF2's stability, Valve would be up on charges > :-) > > > > But they don't. It's just a game. We get the updates - and as I've > pointed > > out on the list at Halloween, sometimes those updates suck and sometimes > > they don't. > > In general, and perhaps over the long term, we win (as clients I mean) > but > > crashes and bugs are just part of the suckage. > > > > So, you just have to live with it. And, be reasonable, it's Christmas. > It > > stands to reason issues were not going to get fixed over the festive > period. > > (Most of the list I saw really had little to do with server owners in any > > case. It's stuff that affects people that play TF2 rather than people > trying > > to make money from running servers) > > > > Equally, of course, being a company full of creative people they > recognise > > and reward creative people in their community. Hence the blessed are the > map > > makers stuff. > > If you want to make money with TF2, be creative. If you're not creative, > > find some other way to make money and just enjoy playing computer games. > > > > Right now TF2 is crashing more often than Stevie Wonder did in his first > > Formula one race, but there are shedloads of games for under a fiver on > > Steam - surely you can find something to fill the time until they > > fix it? > > > > Personally I think the map initiative should fill us all with hope. Why? > > Because if anyone can make money for developing ctf_turbine then anyone > can > > make money making maps. Watching that map make money is a better miracle > > than any religion will tell you about, even at Christmas. And it's a > miracle > > that's not made up :-) > > > > Happy Christmas. > > > > -- > > Dan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
