i think in order of "work" the idea of mckay would be the simplest for
valve to implement. we can only hope they would give some kind of statement
if they will introduce this, and when not, why?

I've got pretty much every server registered except 24/7 custom maps but i
have no problem registering those too if it adds benefit.


2013/9/5 Doctor McKay <[email protected]>

> The idea of assigning a server a Steam ID is an interesting one, but we
> actually already have a system for this, at least in TF2. If a server is
> logged in to Steam, then when you favorite it you could actually favorite
> the server's account ID. Then the favorites list would retrieve the
> server's current address from Steam based on the account ID.
>
> This could also be an additional benefit to registering your server beyond
> just Quickplay participation (which is only relevant if you're not running
> custom maps/mods) and event participation (which is only relevant about two
> weeks out of the year).
>
>
> Dr. McKay
> www.doctormckay.com
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > yeah, problem is, brick wall in front of that guy.
> >
> > If I have a bunch of favorited servers, and a server drops off due a IP
> > change, that server wont see me back. For:
> > A: I'm not even aware the server is gone, unless its a special mod that I
> > like.
> > B: As I have enough other favorites, I wont be searching for servers in
> > the internet tab.
> > Majority of servers out there run mandatory Pinion nowadays, so searching
> > for new servers is a pain anyways.
> >
> > And NO, I'm NOT looking for EMPTY servers. So I sort on # of players on
> > it, and look for a map I like.
> >
> > But the most important question is: Would I like to keep the server in my
> > Fav's, regardless of their IP?
> >
> > And the answer is yes, for once they made it to my favs, the server
> proved
> > to me to not be a bad one (pinion R**e, lag, crap plugins, etc)
> > That is the purpose of my Favorites to me: get back to servers that
> didn't
> > make me a bad experience. If one such changed, for example add Pinion,
> and
> > I didn't like it anymore, I leave and remove it from favs...
> >
> > That is the "special" part of having a Favorite server list, those
> servers
> > earned to be there.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: martin v <[email protected]>
> > >To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list <
> > [email protected]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013, 7:23
> > >Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Add something to the game so that server ops
> > can ban HWID too.
> > >
> > >
> > >Let's don't let this topic die.
> > >
> > >
> > >2013/8/28 dan <[email protected]>
> > >
> > >> On 26/08/2013 04:07, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I do not agree on your assumption.
> > >>>
> > >>> Most players use their favorites, they have a bunch of them in there,
> > for
> > >>> various mods within the game.
> > >>> Personally, I have like 80-100 servers in there, I really wouldn't
> > notice
> > >>> a server dropping off cos they changed IP.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Well you wouldn't really have to notice it would you? Most of the time
> > >> Robert must be crying because
> > >> you're not on his server you're on one of the other 99 in your
> > favourites
> > >> list. So your argument
> > >> doesn't really solve Robert's problem does it? He wants you to have
> one
> > >> favourite server - his.
> > >>
> > >> Please, at least use some common sense before replying.
> > >>
> > >> What assumption do you disagree with? I'm saying in order to have 100
> > >> servers in your faves list
> > >> you must have found and joined those servers at one point without them
> > >> being in that list. You cannot argue
> > >> with that, it's a simple fact.
> > >>
> > >> So, if you've only 99 servers (and it's clear you don't know if you
> have
> > >> 80 or 100) panic!
> > >> No don't panic, do exactly what you did to find those 99 servers to
> find
> > >> the missing one.
> > >>
> > >> Or just play on one of the other 99.
> > >>
> > >> It's clear from your point of view there are far more servers than
> > you'll
> > >> ever have the time to play on
> > >> even if you spent 24 hours a day playing tf2. There will always be
> empty
> > >> servers if there
> > >> are more servers than people. Valve can't do anything with DNS to
> change
> > >> that.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  As there are enough other servers to play on, I would not need to
> > "find"
> > >>> that server again in the server browser. I just go to another
> favorite
> > >>> server. Why? See pinion story, most non-favorited has pinion in a
> very
> > >>> intrusive way enabled.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Exactly. There's nothing special about servers. Nothing at all that
> > makes
> > >> them worth chasing rather than playing on a new one
> > >> or a different one. Nothing that makes much sense adding 100 of them
> to
> > >> "favourites". You can find another server to play on as easily as
> > >> you found a server and added it to faves in the first place.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  So, after years having a server in somwhere in my favorites, with a
> > vague
> > >>> familiarity of the server name, ppl won't go looking for a missing
> > server
> > >>> that changed IP.
> > >>>
> > >>> Now apply above to other players. And add to that that often server
> > >>> owners cant move IP to a new box. They lose their player base there.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> No they don't.  The player base is the same.  Whether people
> originally
> > >> joined their server via quickplay or the browser, people will again.
> > >> If there are players around.
> > >>
> > >> The server is easy to find as it was before. The guy like you with 100
> > >> servers in his faves isn't playing on their server much is he?
> > >> Not if he's forgotten all about the server, the name and everything.
> If
> > >> anyone plays on a server regularly enough to care about finding it
> > >> when it goes awol then they know what server they are on.
> > >>
> > >> If you were really involved in the community of one or two servers and
> > >> really loved playing on them, you'd know the community and you'd
> > >> know the servers.
> > >>
> > >> All you have is lots of faves in your list that you've added but
> rarely
> > if
> > >> ever play on and so, as you say, you really have no
> > >> idea what servers you've added - but you haven't really been a
> > significant
> > >> part of their player base either - because
> > >> one guy can't be a significant part of the player base of 100 servers.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Dan
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