Regarding RCon, unfortunately it is needed for various add-on stuff like stay trackers ( such as GameMe.com), ban systems ( SourceBans), etc. On May 19, 2015 7:38 AM, "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote:
> While we're at it why even have a password for rcon? Only a small handful > of players even know how to use rcon. > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:10 AM, N-Gon <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Again. > > Only a small handful of people within UGC know about making Sourcemod > > plugins. > > Instead of being pessimistic about fixing something why not come up with > a > > better solution than the one I have presented? > > Such as maybe removing the cvar all together because it serves 0 purpose > as > > the 0 backstab method is completely broken and 2 backstab method is > > completely untested AND broken. > > There is no need to have that cvar set to anything other than 1, so why > not > > just remove it. > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:01 AM, AnAkkk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Removing a cvar flag with a plugin is only 2 lines, some people sell > > cheat > > > server plugins that got many more features than that, so it's easy for > > > anyone to buy one and put it on their server. > > > With VAC there is at least a chance (even if it's small) that the guy > is > > > going to get banned, and there's none if he has access to the server. > > > > > > 2015-05-19 14:54 GMT+01:00 N-Gon <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > But the amount of players who can readily make something like that > > within > > > > UGC is not all that high. > > > > People thought of me as a messiah for my simple plugin when I had > only > > > > learned about programming in SMod 2 days prior. > > > > > > > > Making a plugin to continue to cheat is way more steps involved than > > > simply > > > > typing an rcon command in console. > > > > > > > > Nothing will ever 100% stop cheaters, but it's silly not to even try > to > > > > slow them down. > > > > If we're going to just toss our hands in the air and say it's > pointless > > > > because there will always be a workaround then why even bother > having a > > > VAC > > > > system in place. > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Ross Bemrose <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes, that was a given. > > > > > > > > > > After all, server plugins can remove the cheat flag just as readily > > as > > > > the > > > > > notify flag. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:46 AM, AnAkkk <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > That's pointless, someone could make a a plugin to remove the > > notify > > > > > flag. > > > > > > You should only trust servers that are hosted by leagues where no > > one > > > > has > > > > > > the rcon_password or any access to the machine. There are many > > other > > > > > cvars > > > > > > that can be modified the same way and be used to cheat. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-05-19 14:41 GMT+01:00 Ross Bemrose <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Either way, tf_backstab_detection_method should probably be > > flagged > > > > as > > > > > > > Notify so that all players are told when its value changes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:13 AM, N-Gon < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey, while we're on the subject of exploits I wanted to bring > > > > > something > > > > > > > up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tf_backstab_detection_method > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently that cvar can be changed on the fly with just rcon > > > > access. > > > > > > > > It's not Cheat or Notify flagged. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've had reports from 3 different UGC Plat players who are > > highly > > > > > > > > suspicious of other teams using this on a toggle to allow > their > > > > spies > > > > > > > easy > > > > > > > > facestabs when they need them. > > > > > > > > Adding a flag to this command will not harm anyone and it > will > > > be a > > > > > > load > > > > > > > > off the minds of the Comp players who have no way of proving > > this > > > > is > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > done in official matches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I made a plugin that, among other things, flagged this thing > > is a > > > > > > cheat. > > > > > > > > It's a nice start but I can't force everyone to use my > plugin. > > > But > > > > if > > > > > > > Valve > > > > > > > > were to change this I wouldn't have to :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Miggy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Bruno Garcia < > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Fixed *crash* when getting a malformed KeyValues buffer" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:11 PM, N-Gon < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Out of curiosity, what exactly did this do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Kyle Sanderson < > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that this exploit is public knowledge, any idea > when > > we > > > > > will > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > the remaining mainline Source Games updated? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > Kyle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Eric Smith < > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > We've released an optional update for Team Fortress > 2. > > > > > > Dedicated > > > > > > > > > > servers > > > > > > > > > > > do not need to download the update but you can if you'd > > > like. > > > > > The > > > > > > > > note > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > the update is below. The updated version is 2771145. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Fixed crash when getting a malformed KeyValues > buffer > > > > > (thanks > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > Nathaniel Theis for the report) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > the > > > > list > > > > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > list > > > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list > > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Ross Bemrose > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Ross Bemrose > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
