On 19/05/2015 15:10, N-Gon wrote:
Again.
Only a small handful of people within UGC know about making Sourcemod
plugins.
Writing a plugin doesn't make you Donald Knuth.
Any idiot can write a plugin. The reason there are so few writing
them is because there's really no great need for plugins.
Instead of being pessimistic about fixing something why not come up with a
better solution than the one I have presented?
There isn't really one.
VAC et al is about not trusting clients. It kind of makes sense to do
what you can to police the clients.
If you don't trust the servers you play on it's game over. You have to
play somewhere else.
Many servers did nefarious things in the past to the general TF2 pub
community.
Not cheating per se, but essentially we can look at what Valve could do
about it
then and what they did do about it.
Back then Valve didn't appear to have the stomach to ban servers
permanently in
the same way they do for clients. They did remove servers from the
browser and
make a bit of a fuss on here telling server owners not to do this kind
of thing.
Equally though, if a server runs a plugin or changes cvars Valve don't
care that much,
except where the owner deceives the players.
However that's really the limit. If a server does something nefarious
with respect to the
player base then Valve can remove that server from the browser.
But this hardly applies to comp servers does it or to comp teams using their
own server to cheat in some way.
When you get down to trying to determine whether changing a server cvar
is cheating or not,
you can't really expect Valve to police comp matches or all the
potential plugins and settings
that a server might or might not have and how that may impact some
random comp game.
The rest of us that are joining pub servers - well, it's like another
vote for Valve's servers
isn't it :D
There is no need to have that cvar set to anything other than 1, so why not
just remove it.
Well this is perhaps true, but completely orthogonal as even if you
remove this particular cvar, if you don't trust the server owner, they
can still cheat
in other ways.
--
Dan
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