On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Michael Richardson <[email protected]>wrote:
> > >>>>> "Victor" == Victor Kuarsingh <[email protected]> writes: > Victor> These devices (in such operating modes) are however not > Victor> likely to participate in a home network (as the gateway > Victor> device or a router) and it's very unlikely to be the head of > Victor> home network. > > I STRONGLY DISAGREE. > That's fine. My statement was based on an aggregate set of behaviors over millions of endpoints. Corner cases always exist (and perhaps not so corner in the future). > > Not only will smartphones be pressed into use whenever the primary ISP > is down (I've done this three times in 18 months since I got a > smartphone), but whenever there is an ad-hoc gathering of people who > need network, they will insist that their smartphones be smart. > Sure, a number of people seem to do this and tether their phones for Internet Access. Although performance is somewhat degraded as Smartphones don't seem to make very good routers (performance wise - but this may change). Notice I did not say "never", I said "not likely". > > I expect my smartphone to provide network to my Personal Area Network > (whether via Bluetooth PAN or Zigbee), and I further expect that PAN to > have an alternate exit via my HAN. > Understood. However is that what most people will expect? Perhaps one can argue yes. > > I want to further point out that 3GPP and the mobile operators are no > longer in control of what phones do. They are network devices. I guess this is true to some extent. There is value in having standards in this area which make things work in a relatively complex environment. > The > only thing they can control is the protocol on the wire, and if they > piss of the consumer, the consumer will simply tunnel. > I guess some may tunnel. Not sure if most would. > It's good that 3G will have PD in the future. > I know that new versions of SIXXS AICCU now include it. > > PD is in the spec. But when it sees the light of day in actual deployments (network + devices) is the key. regards, Victor K -- > ] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | > firewalls [ > ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net > architect[ > ] [email protected] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device > driver[ > Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx1ycLXQSE> > then sign the petition. > _______________________________________________ > homenet mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet >
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