On Mar 6, 2013, at 4:45 PM, STARK, BARBARA H wrote:

> No. It’s not AT&T’s 6rd deployment. I can’t get a 30Mbps service from AT&T.

Silly me!

Indeed, they are deploying within a /32, leaving only a /64 for your RG. 
6rd Prefix = 2602:100::/32
Border Relay Address = 68.114.165.1
6rd prefix length = 32
IPv4 mask length = 0
Good they will move to dual-stack. If they find more users wanting to use 6rd 
and more gateways knowing what to do with more than a single /64, they should 
be able to get space from ARIN such that giving more than a /64 with 6rd is 
still possible (even with a single domain). We worked very hard on making sure 
that was possible at the policy level.

Thanks for the pointer, I was unaware of this one. 

- Mark


> It’s actually listed as a trial, so it’s not known to me how long it will be 
> this way, and I don’t think it’s appropriate to flame or complain about an 
> MSO’s trial IPv6 6rd service, much as I might enjoy that. They say that they 
> are headed to dual stack. But my personal philosophy is not to believe in 
> promises of what will be (especially promises that have no date or timeline 
> provided), and to accept the high likelihood that the current state of 
> affairs will continue to exist for the next several years.
> But since the following info is available publicly on the Internet, I’ll 
> point you to the following link:
> http://www.myaccount.charter.com/customers/Support.aspx?SupportArticleID=2665
> Specific 6rd trial info is on this page under the heading “Preparing for 
> IPv6”.
>  
> This is clearly labeled as a trial, and I would rather have them commended 
> for offering this, than lambasted for the fact that it doesn’t meet 
> expectations of individuals in the IETF. I see no need to talk to them about 
> it. I have no complaint with it.
> Barbara
>  
> If she is on the 6rd deployment I think she is, the gateway itself is getting 
> a /60 from 6rd. The limitation is not 6rd or the ISP trying to be stingy per 
> se. The limitation is that the gateway currently isn't sub-delegating to 
> subtended routers, and the LAN ports are bridged and served by the same /64 
> anyway.
>  
> The current policies in ARIN and RIPE are such that there really is no excuse 
> for an ISP to limit to /64 with 6rd, even without resorting to multiple 
> domains. I don't know of any large 6rd deployments that are limiting 
> themselves to /64 within the mapping rule itself today, but I've stopped 
> keeping track now as it has become rather widely understood and available. 
>  
> - Mark
>  
> On Mar 6, 2013, at 3:54 AM, Lorenzo Colitti wrote:
>  
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:03 AM, STARK, BARBARA H <[email protected]> wrote:
> As a home user who currently gets a /64 (via 6rd) from my ISP, I find this 
> recommendation insufficient.
>  
> Who is the ISP? Do you know why they are only handing out /64? Have you tried 
> to talk to them?
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