>> 
>>>> It means that every single device on a wired network is on a different 
>>>> subnet.  Perhaps it doesn't cause any extreme harm, but it certainly makes 
>>>> managing and debugging the network harder, and it means that you can't 
>>>> have a layer two switch anymore.  So the question I would ask is not "is 
>>>> there a problem with this," because obviously there is, but rather "is 
>>>> there a benefit to doing it this way."  I am curious to know what you 
>>>> think the benefit is.
>>> 
>>> I am not mandating that each and every device is in its own broadcast 
>>> domain, I am however advocating that we leave the model that has been 
>>> prevalent for 10-15 years at least, ie that a home gateway has a "WAN" port 
>>> and 4 "LAN" ports, and these 4 ports are bridged. I'm saying the typical 
>>> device should have 4-5 "L3" ports. You're then free to connect one of these 
>>> to your L2 switch if you so please.
>>> 
>>> I would like my router-to-router links to not have a lot of hosts in them 
>>> if I can avoid it.
>> 
>> +1.
>> 
>> there are very few shared media around anymore.
> 
> Still one to phase out: spectrum ;-)
> 
> I would say the opposite, I see kids that have never been connected to a 
> wired link. What about wireless repeaters, which forward packets and do not 
> have a network jacket? Wireless backhaul links to ISP?

yes, at L1 but not L2, which was what I was trying to say. citing 802.11 as an 
example.

cheers,
Ole


> 
> Teco
> 
> 
>> I don't think I've ever been connected to a 10base5.
>> why should the IP subnet model emulate a shared medium, when the physical 
>> topology is a star.
>> 
>> wireless with security is also a star topology, with a unidirectional 
>> broadcast channel.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> Ole
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