On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Ray Bellis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 05/08/2015 12:44, Dave Taht wrote: > >> I would like to require the design team >> >> *to actually install the software*. > > Dave, > > We've heard you before, but with the best will in the world we cannot > *require* IETF volunteers to put their own time and money into this.
Stay home and save the plane fare and hotel and food expenses. Attending a meeting costs 3k or so, plus the lost business from trying to stay awake in futile meetings. That's what I've been doing. Pays for a lot of routers, that does. Gives me time to work on the remaining real problems, also, which include naming the ipv6 hex vomit more sanely and a multitude of other issues this wg has dropped the ball on. If whoever is funding your travel is unwilling to let you expense a couple 100 dollar (tops) routers, in addition to allowing you to waste time attending meetings, I think they are investing in the wrong place. Nobody funds my travel, and I guess, in part, that is why I am aware of the overwhelming difference in cost between actually developing and testing the software, vs attending meetings or putting up with the endless bikeshed emails. > Heck, I can't even run the Homenet stack myself as my ISP doesn't yet > have native IPv6 and also wants extra money to get their edge router > running in bridge mode. Nearly every form of ipv6 tunneling is supported by the openwrt software for your edge gateway. dslite, 6in4, aiccu, 6to4, 6rd, and gre are supported and have been supported *for years*. Numerous other methods of applying a ipv6 vpn over ipv4 also exist. If you provider will not allow any of those through their crappy cpe, then perhaps this wg needs to consider that as a problem for this wg? Sure, that first router requires some hand configuration for the needed tunnels. Additional ones do not, and can thus be tested with hnetd and your routing protocol of choice. http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/uci/network for more details as to setup. > > [and no, before you suggest it, changing ISPs is *not* an option]. Not being able to get native ipv6 to your location is no excuse. > Ray > -- Dave Täht worldwide bufferbloat report: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/bufferbloat And: What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone? https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast _______________________________________________ homenet mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet
