Sorry, I mistyped the fourth word, which is missing the "k" in front.
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Am 21.05.2010 um 07:41 schrieb Hans Pizka:

> But Benjamin Britten new how & when to use these effects very well,
> but it is rather "muted" than "stopped". If played stopped, there would
> be a "click" between the open & stopped note, while there would be 
> no "click" (valve action) if played "muted". But it works on the
> F-side only. When I say "muted" it may be "half stopped" (what a wrong term,
> as stopped or closed is full anyway & cannot be done half way; "hand
> muted" would be the better term in your language).
> 
> Use F-2 on the d#, close the bell half way for the d & open gradually
> to the final d#. The switch from open to "con sord." at the end of the 
> Nocturne
> is more difficult as it requires most precise action from the open f1 to 
> the con sord. f1. There is no chance to use a device. Play the first measure 
> f1 
> on the F-side with 1, change the right hand position to the exact "hand muted"
> position, but also finger an f1# with 2. Do it exactly on the downbeat
> to meet the strings.
> 
> Again you might see, that the F-horn has several advantages. By the way,
> the Nocturne is much easier on the F-side than the Bb-side (except perhaps 
> the 
> written top a2), if the d2 is also played as F0.
> 
> Has anybody played Brittens opera "Billy Budd" ? Be aware of a half page
> long quite nasty solo, which you feel like sitting in the pit - "naked" .....
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> Am 21.05.2010 um 01:02 schrieb Daniel B. Hrdy:
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I would point out the one issue not addressed that was brought up in
>>> original thread.  Some works require one note stopped, next one open.
>>> I think Peer Gynt was mentioned. Hard to do with a mechanical device.
>>> 
>> 
>> Or the last note of the Elegy of the Britten Serenade, which goes from open 
>> to stopped to open as an effect.  At least you have the feeling that Britten 
>> knew what he was doing.  Unlike the pointlessly complex Penderecki Sextet, 
>> which opens with a stopped Eb below the staff, and is loaded with non-horn 
>> friendly writing.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
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