I have a best friend who is a commercial pilot. You couldn't be more incorrect about this.
-William A flight simulator just simulates the reality, the real flight situations, but it does not give you the advice where to push any button or which button. You have to solve an inflight problem with your right action. The inflight problem is voluntarily set by the instructor or by the programer. And, if you do not understand the flying rules and the aerodynamic facts (requires a certain amount of special studies), you will not be able to solve the problem. That´s the same as treating a musical instrument, but with the one big difference, that in flight reality (not in the simulator) lives will be in danger of peril. -----Original Message----- From: Hans Pizka <[email protected]> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jun 20, 2010 12:58 am Subject: Re: [Hornlist] New app for horn fingerings A flight simulator just simulates the reality, the real flight situations, but it does not give you the advice where to push any button or which button. You have to solve an inflight problem with your right action. The inflight problem is voluntarily set by the instructor or by the programer. And, if you do not understand the flying rules and the aerodynamic facts (requires a certain amount of special studies), you will not be able to solve the problem. That´s the same as treating a musical instrument, but with the one big difference, that in flight reality (not in the simulator) lives will be in danger of peril. ############################################################################## Am 20.06.2010 um 04:11 schrieb [email protected]: > By your logic there would be no need for flight simulators. > > Yet, some of the best pilots in the world have spent many hours > training in flight simulators. > > Software, when done right, can be an excellent training tool. > > -William > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hans Pizka <[email protected]> > To: The Horn List <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Jun 19, 2010 3:30 pm > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] New app for horn fingerings > > > William, again it is your wrong approach to the things. We do not talk > > here about the costs comparison > > between a Porsche and a good horn. The issue is about fingering > > technique on a given tool/machine, how > > to learn & train them. This is most related with the software in our > > brain. > > > > If you have no idea about plus & minus, the best computer software > > will not be able to assist you to learn > > the difference between plus & minus. If you have no ideas about the > > natural pitches series and the > > distance between the different steps of this series, you cannot > > understand what fingerings to use, means which > > tube to select. Understanding the things & the rules has to be learned > > first, real understanding, not just hammering > > the fingerings into ones brain by whatever methode or program. > > > > If one refuses to understand that rule, he or she will go "crap" > > sooner or later. > > > > ####################################################################################### > > Am 19.06.2010 um 16:00 schrieb [email protected]: > > > >> There's a great deal of difference between the automobile and a horn > >> though. Most people turn their heads and admire a Porsche. Those > >> same people don't really think twice when they see a shiny >> instrument. > >> > >> Plus, an expensive car is a feat of engineering that is much more > >> highly advanced than the most expensive horn out there. > >> > >> Not to take away from the hard work that goes into making a horn, > >> but car companies have billions to spend and customers that are > >> willing to pay upwards of $100,000. > >> > >> -William > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Hans Pizka <[email protected]> > >> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Sat, Jun 19, 2010 1:27 am > >> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] New app for horn fingerings > >> > >> > >> Bravo John, bravo. > >> > >> What is so difficult about the fingering ? The harmonic series is a > >> physical > >> fact, so is the shortening or elongation of the tube by the valves. > >> Every simple brain can > >> calculate what fingerings to use for any note. Well, some notes are > >> possible on several > >> tubes, if we think of acceptable results. Some notes are better in > >> tune on the one > >> tube, some on the other tube length. > >> > >> Buying a device or program, which does that calculation for us, is > >> of NO USE > >> certainly, as it contributes NOTHING to our brain training. To > >> acquire certain > >> skill, it needs good teaching & a lot of intelligent practice. > >> > >> William brought up the automobile as comparison. Well, this is also > >> a tool > >> as is our horn. People also laugh watching our shiny brass snail, > >> seeing it > >> the first time. > >> > >> This iCrap goes about self teaching not about the machine. What do > >> you learn > >> in a driving school ? How an engine is built ? You will learn the > >> traffic rules > >> and how to move through the traffic safely. So we do in the horn > >> lessons. > >> > >> We learn how to use the given different tubes by selecting them for > >> different > >> pitches. > >> > >> We learn how to "ride the overtones". We learn rhythm, melody, > >> transpose, > >> etc. We might learn, how to name the different parts of the > >> instrument. That > >> might be the only thing in common with the driving course. > >> > >> Learning music is not that simple, it is a most complex product of > >> our brain, > >> and, as newest studies confirm, an inherited ability: the cognitive > >> audio visual > >> ability to remember acoustical sensations and the ability to >> transform > >> black dots within a certain line system into more or less complex > >> acoustical > >> sensations. Good musicians can hear a piece only by reading the >> score. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > post: [email protected] > > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/valkhorn%40aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/valkhorn%40aol.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
