You're right, how foolish of me to base my opinions on facts...
 
-William
 
 
In a message dated 11/11/2010 12:56:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

It´s  theory that humans are able to hear pitches up to 20.000 Hz, but very 
few do  it.
Just feeling it or just noticing it is not enough. I talked about  
distinguishing a certain
pitch. That makes the difference.

And,  aren´t there surveys about hearing abilities in our societies ? 
Didn´t  they
come out telling us, that the hearing abilities not only of the  elderly 
are fading out, but
also of the younger & the very young  generations as being exposed to the 
acoustical
pollution or self imposed  extreme noise high & sublow with high amplitudes 
???

Please,  William, do not start another war of words, as we do not disagree 
on the  matter, 
but we view it from different standpoints only. You go for the  mere facts, 
perhaps, while 
I go for the qualities of the hearing sense,  perhaps.

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Am  11.11.2010 um 18:32 schrieb [email protected]:

> It's not theory. You  either hear the pitches or you do not. Hearing 
tests  
> are pretty  objective. You are given a range of frequencies for both ears 
and 
>  you  either hear them or do you don't.
> 
> I can not only  hear pitches above 5,000 hz, but I can distinguish 
whether  
> or  not I'm hearing them.
> 
> -William
> 
> 
> In a  message dated 11/11/2010 11:13:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
>  [email protected] writes:
> 
> In  theory, just in theory. But  you cannot hear nor distinguish a 
certain 
> pitch  above 5.000  Hz.
> 
> And a greater majority of all people in our  westernized  society has 
severe 
> hearing loss. 
> 
>  But I admit, you might feel the  extreme high pitches, - even painful in 
 
> your ear, or the extreme
> low  pitches in your stomache -  can make you  vomiting.
> 
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>  Am  11.11.2010 um 17:53 schrieb [email protected]:
> 
>>  The human ear can  usually hear from 20Hz to 20,000Hz. 
>>  
>> If you cannot hear above  5,000 Hz, then you probably have  severe 
hearing 
> 
>> loss.
>> 
>>  _http://www.noiseaddicts.com/2009/03/can-you-hear-this-hearing-test/_   
>>  (http://www.noiseaddicts.com/2009/03/can-you-hear-this-hearing-test/)   
>> 
>> I have only halfway decent speakers - so I probably  can't  output the 
> higher 
>> frequencies. I made it to  12kHz only. It must be  all that time near 
> large   
>> computer equipment, or my  speakers.
>>  
>> -William
>> 
>> 
>> In a message   dated 11/11/2010 10:48:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
>>  [email protected] writes:
>> 
>> Hello  Hans  Illich,
>> 
>> good calculation, 
>> but A-5000  corresponds to a 4-times   smaller E-flat 0,44% sharp, 
>>  if we take A=440 as the base. 
>> 
>> Based  upon  A=440: E-flat=311,13
>> the corresponding  fraction of 5000 be  312,50  which is 0,44% sharp.
>> This E-flat  near 5000  Hz  would be 22Hz sharp  and be in the 5th 
octave 
> =   
>> E-flat´´´´´
>> thus exceeding most peoples  hearing   capabilities.
>> 
>> Or explained  musically:
>> two octaves  higher than the  notated high  E-flat, written with 3 
ledger 
>> lines above staff
>> in  concert  notation (=sound as written). It  might be notated as  
trebble 
>> clef plus "octava  2" above
>> or similar.  
>> 
>> It would also mean, that A-5000 does not    exist, if we go after human 
>> naming of pitches.
>>  
>> Mei  liawa ! Oba bist  guad im kalkulian. Liawe   griass
>> 
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