Charlie,

Thanks for your post.

I have determined that I haven't been black listed, and I think a lot
of this is spam detectors.  Yahoo and GMAIL were GOOD in letting the
mail go through once they were "told" to accept the email address.

I am sure that we are on an earlier version of CF, but I am not sure
which one.

I tried putting a wait as was suggested in an earlier post but
whatever version that I have does not support the CFOBJECT.

I checked your BLOG and it was helpful in understanding the issues and
message ID.

I am using a hosting site.   Is there some way that I can figure out
what release they are on?

Thanks

Stan
On Apr 6, 1:45 pm, "charlie arehart" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I think we should distinguish blacklisting from being detected as spam. As
> some of the replies have mentioned, your server may well be blacklisted, but
> it may just be that individual messages are what are being detected as spam.
> There are many different algorithms used to detect spam, and between you
> sending it and a client receiving it, such detection may take place on the
> server of the recipient or on their client.
>
> You mentioned two of particular concern: gmail and yahoo. Have you got
> examples of the emails indicating that? If so, in the mail headers you will
> find some headers that may give clues as to why it's being detected as spam.
> There are just so many potential things to affect it. A search will turn up
> all manner of observations, theories, hacks, and so on.
>
> You don't mention whether you're on CF 6, 7, or 8 (or something else).
> Here's good news, especially since you're on a shared server: as of CF8, if
> you use the SERVER attribute of CFMAIL, CF now (finally) uses that in
> creating the message-id header, which some servers use to otherwise flag
> mail from CF (and other servers) as spam. For more, see:
>
> http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/12/7/cfmail_messag...
> ution_for_CF8
>
> And if you're on 6 or 7, I point out other solutions in a later entry
> pointed to from that one. If you're still on 6 or 7, some of the
> alternatives I offer will be quite challenging on a shared server. But this
> could be a great reason to upgrade to CF 8 if one is facing this problem.
>
> Hope that helps some.
>
> /charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>
> Of Stan M.
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:09 PM
> To: Houston ColdFusion Users' Group
> Subject: [houcfug] Black Listing and Spam Filters
>
> I have a Coldfusion application that is an email system for about
> 1,000 addresses.   There are probably an average of only 400 emails
> sent per week.
>
> Recently GMAIL, YAHOO MAIL started recognizing the messages sent from
> this system as spam.   In GMAIL and YAHOO I have been able to tell the
> spam filters to let the mail go through.  In other systems this
> approach may not be working.   It is difficult and not practical to
> get to tell everyone to allow the specific email address.
>
> I have been searching on the web and apparently there are tools that
> black list email addresses or ip addresses.
> problem.
>
> I am not sure what tools there are to help me determine if the system
> is blacklisted. If so what I do next.
>
> I would appreciate any insights that you might have into this.
> 1. How can I check if I am blacklisted?
>
> 2. What can I do to stop being black listed?
>
> 3. Since I am on a shared server (hosted by dailyrazor.com) could I be
> blacklisted because of activity on that server that I am not
> responsible for?
>
> 4. Any other ideas how I could get around this problem?
>
> Thanks
>
> Stan
>
>
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