Glad to have helped. As for your issue with trying to delay your requests, first, about CFOBJECT (or createobject), it's not that a version you have doesn't support CFOBJECT (calling a Java object). That was added in CF 4.51 (though you did have to point CF at your own JVM until CF 6 when it was built atop it.) But you may find that it fails because in a shared server, it's often blocked (using Resource Security if on Standard, or Sandbox security if on Enterprise.)
If you're on CF8, you can use the sleep function instead. As for figuring out what version of CF you're running, there's good news: just do a CFDUMP var="#server.coldfusion#". And that works on all versions of CF. :-) /charlie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stan M. Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 3:47 PM To: Houston ColdFusion Users' Group Subject: [houcfug] Re: Black Listing and Spam Filters Charlie, Thanks for your post. I have determined that I haven't been black listed, and I think a lot of this is spam detectors. Yahoo and GMAIL were GOOD in letting the mail go through once they were "told" to accept the email address. I am sure that we are on an earlier version of CF, but I am not sure which one. I tried putting a wait as was suggested in an earlier post but whatever version that I have does not support the CFOBJECT. I checked your BLOG and it was helpful in understanding the issues and message ID. I am using a hosting site. Is there some way that I can figure out what release they are on? Thanks Stan On Apr 6, 1:45 pm, "charlie arehart" <[email protected]> wrote: > I think we should distinguish blacklisting from being detected as spam. As > some of the replies have mentioned, your server may well be blacklisted, but > it may just be that individual messages are what are being detected as spam. > There are many different algorithms used to detect spam, and between you > sending it and a client receiving it, such detection may take place on the > server of the recipient or on their client. > > You mentioned two of particular concern: gmail and yahoo. Have you got > examples of the emails indicating that? If so, in the mail headers you will > find some headers that may give clues as to why it's being detected as spam. > There are just so many potential things to affect it. A search will turn up > all manner of observations, theories, hacks, and so on. > > You don't mention whether you're on CF 6, 7, or 8 (or something else). > Here's good news, especially since you're on a shared server: as of CF8, if > you use the SERVER attribute of CFMAIL, CF now (finally) uses that in > creating the message-id header, which some servers use to otherwise flag > mail from CF (and other servers) as spam. For more, see: > > http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/12/7/cfmail_messag... > ution_for_CF8 > > And if you're on 6 or 7, I point out other solutions in a later entry > pointed to from that one. If you're still on 6 or 7, some of the > alternatives I offer will be quite challenging on a shared server. But this > could be a great reason to upgrade to CF 8 if one is facing this problem. > > Hope that helps some. > > /charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > > Of Stan M. > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:09 PM > To: Houston ColdFusion Users' Group > Subject: [houcfug] Black Listing and Spam Filters > > I have a Coldfusion application that is an email system for about > 1,000 addresses. There are probably an average of only 400 emails > sent per week. > > Recently GMAIL, YAHOO MAIL started recognizing the messages sent from > this system as spam. In GMAIL and YAHOO I have been able to tell the > spam filters to let the mail go through. In other systems this > approach may not be working. It is difficult and not practical to > get to tell everyone to allow the specific email address. > > I have been searching on the web and apparently there are tools that > black list email addresses or ip addresses. > problem. > > I am not sure what tools there are to help me determine if the system > is blacklisted. If so what I do next. > > I would appreciate any insights that you might have into this. > 1. How can I check if I am blacklisted? > > 2. What can I do to stop being black listed? > > 3. Since I am on a shared server (hosted by dailyrazor.com) could I be > blacklisted because of activity on that server that I am not > responsible for? > > 4. Any other ideas how I could get around this problem? > > Thanks > > Stan > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
