> Recent messages have panned the stock profiles for the DJ 130, and 
I 
> thought I should add my 2 cents' worth.
> 
> My computer, with a Viewsonic CRT monitor runa a DJ 130, an Epson 
> 2200, an Epson R800, and a Magicolor 2450 laser.  Each prints using 
> the respective company-supplied profiles, and I have been generally 
> quite happy with each.  The 2200, in particular, has proved to 
supply 
> WYSIWYG prints each time; the 3 others are not quite as good, but 
> generally very close.
> 
> Yesterday I was printing a customer-supplied file on the 2200, with 
> Premium Semi-gloss, which included 6 faces ranging in color from 
> red/magenta to quite yellow, together with objects supplying a 
rather 
> full range of very saturated colors.  Out of curiosity, I printed 
the 
> same image on the 130 using Premium Plus satin.  The result was 
> extremely close to the Epson print, except that the yellow face was 
> noticebly more saturated on the HP print.  The difference was 
> apparent in viewing the two prints together; I may not have been 
> unhappy with the HP print unless I had been specifically looking 
for 
> a color-match on that face.

Eric,

As one of those who has been critical of the HP supplied profiles, I 
thought I would jump in.  And yes, I do custom profiles for a fee.

First, I completely agree with you about prioritizing color 
management for one's monitor first.  I encourage my clients to become 
comfortable with image working spaces and to invest in a good quality 
system to accurately calibrate and profile their monitors before 
jumping into printer profiling.

I'm as critical of the HP printer driver as I am of their profiles, 
in that they do not seem to have properly proportioned the yellow ink 
content in the neutrals.  In my opinion, this leads to metamerism, 
whereby the prints don't always "travel" well from one viewing light 
to another, with a tendency to show a yellow cast.

If one properly (and periodically) calibrates their DJ and the 
resulting prints using HP profiles are satisfactory, then more power 
to them, all is well.  For my DJ90, and I believe for several others, 
this has not been the case.  Also, I am crtical of their profiles not 
only because of color casts in the neutrals but also as to their 
ability to handle more saturated colors.  Particularly for the 
Percpeutal rendering intent, there are significant differences among 
profiling software packages in terms of their ability to create 
a "pleasing" print.  This will show up primarily in how well the 
profile differentiates among out-of-gamut colors; dark greens are a 
good example.

One thing I've learned in doing color management consulting is there 
is a lot more art to this science then we probably like to admit.  So 
again the most important factor is what pleases the user, regardless 
of the method to arrive at that point.

Richard Southworth
 










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