Hi Mark
Thanks for all the detail you sent - very helpful indeed.
One quick request though - how do you get the roll of paper to feed forward a 
bit at a 
time. It feeds backwards fine after pressing the OK button, but I cant get it 
to feed 
forwards.

best regards

John  Sibley

--- In [email protected], "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is a long post, but I know how frustrated I was at the beginning and it 
> took a while 
to 
> figure all this out.  I have to say that when using my Z3100, ALL these 
> issues go away. 
Not 
> enough reason alone to buy one, but HP did do their homework and make things 
> much 
> better as their line evolved...
> 
> All that follows assumes you own a vanilla DJ 130, not the 130nr.
> 
> --- In [email protected], "johnval27" <johnval27@> wrote: 
> 
> > Q1. If I feed a 24" roll of paper through and print a 24x36 print, how do I 
> > advance the 
> > paper say 1cm at a time so I can get scissors in to cut it off when its 
> > finished? Is there 
a 
> > button press combination I have missed?
> 
> First, if you are using roll feed (which I strongly recommend for reduced 
> paper cost), buy 
> the roll cutter assembly from HP and install it. About $50, easy installation.
> 
> Second, when you are using roll paper from the rear, you must tell the 
> printer you are 
> using a roll.  Sounds dumb, but it took me a while to see where you do that.  
> I use a Mac 
> with OS X, so my description will be as such.  I'm sure there is an 
> equivalent in Windows.  
> After you leave Photoshop during the printing process, the Mac OS print 
> dialog appears 
> prior to sending data to the printer.  At the top there are 3 pull down 
> menus; top is 
printer 
> (choose the correct printer by name), under that is presets (you can use this 
> to name 
and 
> save all the settings that you make in the various print dialog box menus to 
> avoid 
> manually doing what I am describing every time), then unlabled beneath is a 
> third pull 
> down menu that comes up with a default choice of "Copies / Pages".  That is 
> why you 
see 
> the options below where you can say "5 copies" of "pages 2-4".  BUT, when you 
> pull 
down 
> this menu, you see about 8 choices; choose paper type / quality.  The dialog 
> box 
expands 
> considerably to show many more options.  You should choose all the correct 
> items in 
each 
> pull down menu available.  First is paper type; choose the exact paper stock 
> profile 
you're 
> using.  Second is Quality; make an informed choice.  Third is color; this 
> SHOULD 
ALWAYS 
> BE SET TO "Application managed color" to allow Photoshop instructions to be 
> honored 
> instead of the OS X print driver thinking it is supposed to send color 
> instructions to the 
> printer ( a common source of bad color out is set wrong because then color 
management 
> is done twice, PS vs computer print driver conflict).  NOW, notice the last 
> pull down; 
> SOURCE.  There are several choices; automatic front feed, roll, etc.  CHOOSE 
> ROLL here.  
> Once you do this, if you have the paper cutter installed, it will 
> automatically advance 
> paper and cut it after the print is finished being made.  You can also check 
> the "Disable 
roll 
> cutter" here if you are using canvas which may not cut with the cutter 
> mechanism.  The 
> you would advance the paper manually to use your cutter of choice, scissors, 
> exacto, 
etc.
> 
> > Q2. Having hacked the 1st print off the front of the roll, can I leave the 
> > rest in situ and 
> > continue printing a 2nd, 3rd etc, without reloading the roll?
> 
> Absolutely.  However, be aware that when a roll is loaded and you don't print 
> for say, 
> overnight or longer, there are rollers holding the paper that leave 
> undersirable dents in 
> the leading edge of the paper, about 3-4 inches from the edge.  You will only 
> see them 
in 
> the first print, because from then on the new paper hasn't been pinched long 
> enough to 
> dent.  Wait overnight, and you'll see them on the next first print.
>  
> > Q3. Will a paper cutter solve this "Leave in situ" problem?
> 
> The paper cutter per se has nothing to do with being able to leave a roll 
> mounted in the 
> printer.  But, having the paper cutter installed does allow a simple solution 
> to the dents 
> described above.  When you first turn the printer on, let it go thru all the 
> start up til its 
> ready.  Then press the OVAL button on the right of the control panel.  It has 
> a paper 
page 
> symbol with an arrow pointing up (a paradox choice since it actually advances 
> the paper 
> out of the printer; I think a down arrow orientation here would be more 
> intuitive re 
paper 
> direction).  HP calls this the OK button (page 38 in your manual).  It does 
> several things 
> depending on context, BUT at the initialization stage of the printer in the 
> beginning, it 
will 
> advance the paper and then the cutter mechanism will trim away a perfect 
> narrow strip 
of 
> paper 3/8" wide, a seemingly odd result. BUT, if you repeat this and press 
> the OK button 
> 6-8 times, trimming that strip each time, you will cut away the first several 
> inches of 
> paper containing the dent.  An alternative would be to remember to change the 
> size of 
> your document adding 4 dead space inches at the leading edge, but that's too 
complicated 
> for me.  I'd rather just click the OK button and advance / cut manually to 
> solve this.
>  
> > Q4. Could I leave them all joined end to end and cut them later when I have 
> > done, say 
4 
> or 5 24x36" prints?
> 
> You could create a huge canvas in Photoshop and then add multiple images, the 
> same 
or 
> duplicates, to achieve this result, but if you load a roll, choose roll as 
> the source, and 
have 
> the cutter installed, and choose 5 copies in the dialog box, it will print 
> and cut individual 
> prints, spitting them out continuously.
> 
> > Q5. If i DO have to extract the paper and re load the whole roll every time 
> > I do a print, 
> how do I release the paper from the feed rollers (ie reverse the feed) to 
> extract the paper 
> out  the back end?
> 
> You only have to remove the roll to change paper type.  When you do want to 
> eject, 
press 
> the cancel (round red with "X") and OK (oval gray paper with up arrow) at the 
> same time.  
> See page 10 in the printer manual.
> 
> As long as we're discussing rolls and I'm writing a novel...
> 
> I had lots of trouble loading rolls at first.  Two things made a BIG 
> difference.
> 1.  You must achieve perfect alignment when feeding paper from the rear.  If 
> your 
> homemade roll stand is just sitting separate, it can be difficult to have the 
> length of the 
> roll truly parallel to the printer, so feed is straight and follows the small 
> paper path 
guide 
> line on the left side of the printer feed slot.  My solution, besides always 
> rolling the 
paper 
> tight on the roll to remove slack, was to make my roll holder with roughly 
> triangular 
side 
> supports, so everything was square and I could push the front edge of the 
> support 
> structure right against the back base of the printer, exactly parallel.  Then 
> by sliding the 
> roll itself as far to the left as it can on the holder, and sliding the 
> entire holder/paper 
> assembly right or left, you can precisely align the left paper edge squarely 
> to the 
guideline 
> for entry.
> 2.  Equally important is "how" you feed in the paper.  DO NOT ease it in 
> slowly waiting 
for 
> the rolls to sense and grab it.  Doing so will almost always result in skewed 
> paper 
> alignment which will be rejected as the printer checks alignment (by taking 
> in paper and 
> detecting paper alignment.  You know its wrong when the prints spits it back 
> out.  DO 
> push the paper in firmly and rapidly, as far as it will go, pushing equally 
> with both hands 
> holding left and right paper edges.  When you quickly force the paper all the 
> way in the 
> feed mechanism it will be taken up correctly aligned.
> 
> My apologies for the length of this post...
> Mark
>




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