Dear community,First of all, the Inlaws would like to thank the HPR community for their feedback over the years and especially the last few days.
Ken is of course right in pointing out the bootstrapping argument in Wednesday's reply to Yannick's mail (although we never really defined how long this "bootstrapping" period would last).
In addition to the above, the assessment of the situation in our mail from Wednesday (republished in Ken's mail): the situation from an Inlaws' perspective hasn't changed since we published our first episode in early 2020. The content is published exclusively on HPR and our RSS feed points to HPR *only*. Having said that I cannot get rid of that sinking feeling that HPR and its community shy away from success. If Ken's analysis published recently [1] is anything to go by, we are one of HPR's most popular podcasts which regularly publishes content. In addition to the fact that we are syndicated left, right and center without any involvement of our own (as we found out a while ago, there's, for example, a Youtube channel republishing the audio content and giving HPR credit [2]).
But let's take a look at the bigger picture. If our experience never mind the feedback we are getting through official and other channels are anything to go by, the vast majority of our listeners couldn't care less where they get their episodes from. They heard or read about the podcast, search for the RSS feed, subscribe to it and if they like what they hear downloaded from a server, they stick with us.
End of story.In this light, any discussion about wording, podcasts vs hosting platforms, etc. is academic and thus irrelevant for these listeners (playing devil's advocate for the above of course never mind ignoring bylaws, etc. :-).
Of course, bylaws are bylaws and feeling that we may have overstayed our welcome, we are happy to move the content elsewhere (probably archive.org as suggested by Ken) which also has the side effect of reducing the technical debt of the corresponding automation workflow significantly. But do so with a bitter-sweet feeling as we do believe in the true spirit of FLOSS communities and their welcoming / inclusive attitude, thus having made every effort to promote HPR and its cause as part of the episodes and elsewhere. Which is in stark contrast to the wording of some of the comments posted to the HPR ML over the last couple days.
On an interesting side node: HPR seems to be actively soliciting podcasts from other platforms if, for example, the case of the Grumpy Old Coders is anything to go by. In its most recent episode [3], David speaks about HPR having reached out to them trying to move them over to HPR. Given the fact that this format is hosted on a proprietary platform (Soundcloud) with their format exhibiting far more restrictive aspects (for example, they publish their content under an "All Rights Reserved" license in contrast to CC-BY-SA as preferred by HPR) and knowing David (the producer of this format) quite well as he has been one of my colleagues for the last years, it would surprise me if such an endeavour would prove to be successful.
Never mind the above, the Inlaws would like to thank HPR for having us for the last 2.5 years and wish this platform (our words :-) every possible success for the future. But it may help in order to avoid similar incidents in the future to be clearer about syndication never mind what the difference is between a show, a series and a podcast as far as HPR is concerned (as the wording in [4] is somewhat terse)
Cheers, The Inlaws
[1] http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=3648
[2] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1j_uaAbB3magzPs4Z0Y-mg
[3] https://soundcloud.com/user-498377588/grumpy-old-coders-ep18-rollercaster
[4] https://hackerpublicradio.org/stuff_you_need_to_know.php#syndication
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