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Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> In all of this discussion you are the only one that has really forwarded
> anything of worth to the discussion about the future of hsqldb. Michael or
> Fred haven't said anything and if you are the 'principle' of a project you
> should make sure that you are available. Is the entire project supposed to
> stop because a single person doesn't have access to email? Having a single
> person in control of a project is a serious bottleneck.
I don't think this is bad in an of itself.
It is not like there is a TON of mail on the list... If this was a project that
had 1000 mails a day it would be bad.
Right now we don't hit 1000 mails a year. Michael can just come back from
vacation and respond to all 20...
> I certainly do not have all the facts as to how the HSQLdb Development Group
> formed with a principle based on freely available code but it sounds somewhat
> dubious to me. This project will certainly not move forward with a principle
> that has yet to comment on any of the discussions going on and a principle who
> can't find the time to get email access. Even given the current situation
> where Michael may be indisposed none of the design issue that you have
> mentioned were cohesively collected for public review.
Which is why redundancy is good.
> >> This is yet another reason for stabilizing the current code
> >> base while possibly
> >> moving onto another architecture.
> >
> > A lot of people surveyed were using HypersonicSQL/HSQLdb in applets. I was.
> > The number of people using it's server or servlet modes was quite low
> > initially. That was the reason for introducing the idea of a more modular
> > design, where you could 'roll your own' at compilation time so to speak.
> >
> > Much of what I see being discussed is not stabilizing the code,
>
> Discussions of the past or present? Right from the start I advocated a testbed
> which I have created because in the eight months since the code was taken from
> Thomas Mueller there hasn't been the hint of one being made.
yes... stabilization is good :)
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> > This was a hobby project for me, graciously permitted by my employer. I
> > can't access CVS at Sourceforge from here. I will never believe that
> > putting an empty tree in CVS and working in plain site would have done
> > anything other than generate annoyances for me.
>
> Again this is not a very open source way of thinking. Any sort of design
> document or jottings are helpful to people looking at the project. It's is
> definitely nice to have a working codebase, but time rarely permits this.
> Case in point, I have been redesigning Turbine at Jakarta for quite some
> time. It's taken a lot longer than I expected but I keep my notes in CVS and
> though it sometimes generates a lot of questions I don't mind answering
> them. It's helps spread information about the project's future.
Yes... this model works REALLY well.
Public disclosure of information is never a bad thing :)
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> What? What kind of attitude is that? You have no idea the access to people
> some of us have. So intead of asking the community you assume you are working
> with a bunch of people who you feel are unqualified? That's an attitude that
> will run the project into the ground.
It is also hard to figure out when new, smart, people hop on the list.
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