It's simply that I did not choose, write or have anything to do with the licence and am not in a position to change it.
As Mark Tutt stated in an earlier post, Michael Cannon is currently on active duty. We have seen that his access to the Internet is sporadic. He will hopefully be back and sort this out. I suppose if he wants to make any changes to the licence he would do so after taking legal advice which I don't think he can in his current situation. Thomas has stated his opinion first hand in the forum. I pointed a link to his updated license page from our home page. As far as I can see, the project has had and continues to have Thomas's blessing and I will ask him to allow some time for Michael to respond, given his current situation. What he said in his original post was: >>I don't want that you guys have to change the license again, but legally it's probably required. Not to protect me or HSQL, but to protect other people from buying RedBase :) I have seen your more recent post too and I don't think you have a problem as an end user, because you can always add a copy of the Hypersonic licence into the HSQLDB source and compile it yourself. Kevin was enquiring about the HSQL Development Group. This was a group formed by the CORE members who got together through the Internet in the early days. Later Michael said he had registered it as a non-profit organisation. Michael and Mark are from the US, I'm from the UK. I have never met or spoken to either of them or any other HSQLDB developers, but I have found them all dedicated to the effort, especially given the severe personal difficulties they have had in recent months. I was given the titles Kevin is asking about by Michael. I don't like titles but currently these are the roles that I have to fulfil within the project to the extent that I can, and that does not include changing the licence. As I said before to everyone, please do not continue discussion of licence issues in this forum. There are two separate places for it. Fred Toussi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mauricio Piacentini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:45 AM Subject: Re: [Hsqldb-developers] Project Guildelines > I am sorry, Fred, but licensing IS important. I have been following the > redbase thread on the forums, and it is simply amazing that Thomas now has > asked hsqldb to change the copyright notices distributed with hsqldb, and > the license wording has been updated in his page. > > I don't want to be stuck developing and supporting a product which I may be > prevented to use on the future when another "license update" occurs, as it > may happen with the redbase guys. I am not defending their practice of > basically selling a free product, but one needs CLEAR rules and they can not > change in the half-time. > > I started using hsqldb and we comply with the current license, but this > license issue needs to be clarified once and for all. Apparently the current > wording is not complying with Thomas initial license for 1.43, and I take > this from his post in the forum. I need an answer, or I can not take the > project seriously. Refusing to discuss this point is not an option IMO. > > Regards, > Mauricio Piacentini > Tabuleiro > > > Again I am not going to discuss license issues or let it disrupt the > > development of the code. Michael Cannon will hopefully be back in January > > and follow that up. I am just stating some facts regarding this: > > > > Our license has not changed since the beginning of the HSQLDB project. Our > > web site clearly states at the top of the home page that it is a > > continuation of Hypersonic and has had a clear and prominent link to the > new > > home page of Hypersonic since this page was introduced. > > This is in addition to the link to the Hypersonic project that we had from > > the beginning. > > > > The Hypersonic project page contains a news item dated 26 March 2001 by > > Thomas Mueller that mentions and links to HSQLDB. The Open Discussion > Forum > > for HSQLDB contains a recent thread discussing a commercial product based > on > > our code. In it, Thomas states his opinions relating to the licence. We > have > > read Thomas's contributions and would always respect his opinion. > > > > _______________________________________________ > hsqldb-developers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hsqldb-developers _______________________________________________ hsqldb-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hsqldb-developers
