On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Susan Hares <[email protected]> wrote:

> Behcet:
>
>
>
> Can you tell me how the ONF Management and configuration protocol will
> interface with the routing system with all the requirements set forth by
> the architecture document?   Please refer to version 2.0 architecture
>
>
>

Don't get me wrong.

I am not speaking in favor of OF-Config.

But the point is that a more realistic choice should be between these two
choices.

If the study showed that OF-Config did not meet the requirements, that is
fine but I heard no one said that.
I wonder if the forces protocol meets these requirements?



Behcet

> Or review to the presentation at IETF.   If you can present these features
> in email or any substantial way, we will listen.  In my observations, the
> ONF management protocol was designed for the ONF flows and not the
> information models required or the use case required.
>
>
>
> Sue Hares
>
>
>
> *From:* i2rs [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Behcet Sarikaya
> *Sent:* Friday, April 18, 2014 11:32 AM
> *To:* Dean Bogdanovic
> *Cc:* [email protected]; Edward Crabbe; Jamal Hadi Salim
> *Subject:* Re: [i2rs] consensus on I2RS protocol and model
>
>
>
> Hi Dean,
>
> I attended i2rs session in London on this issue.
>
>
> My question is why ONF Management and Configuration protocol (OF-Config
> 1.2) was not on the table.
>
> Regards,
>
> Behcet
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Dean Bogdanovic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Jamal,
>
> Here are two criteria to be considered:
> 1. technical
> 2. commercial/business
>
> We can discuss pros and cons for both, but have to state that from
> business perspective for Juniper going with RESTCONF/YANG make more sense.
> We already built the Junos model in YANG and
> have or are in process of building needed tools. Same goes for RESTCONF.
> We have NETCONF implemented in Junos and are working on RESTCONF
> implementation.
> Many carriers adopted or are adopting NETCONF/YANG, are looking into
> RESTCONF as well, so this looks like a low hanging fruit from business
> perspective.
>
> Looking at technical aspect, unless there is a very compelling reason (and
> there might be, but I'm not aware of it), don't see reason to switch from
> RESTCONF and YANG.
> We can find out down the line that RESTCONF/YANG was the wrong way to go,
> but that can be always changed. From my perspective it looks right today.
>
> Just to be clear, I vote for RESTCONF/YANG adoption for i2rs.
>
> Dean
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Jamal Hadi Salim <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Ok, since nobody is saying anything i'll bite.
> > How would you like for this discussion to proceed?
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Edward Crabbe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Dear I2RSers,
> >>
> >>  At the last I2RS WG meeting there was a great deal of conversation
> >> regarding selection of both modeling language and underlying transport
> >> protocol.  Consensus at the time was to make use of Yang and (NetConf or
> >> RestConf) (unclear).
> >>
> >
> > And i believe the view, as correctly presented by you, is for folks to
> go back
> > and make educated decisions by actually getting knowledgeable about
> > the different views presented. "Consensus" that you described above
> > to me looked like  a pageant popularity contest not based on anything
> > technical ("who likes contestant in the blue shirt? please cheer for
> them").
> >
> > In my opinion i dont think the requirements are clear.
> >
> > Will that get the crickets stop chirping?
> >
> > cheers,
> > jamal
> >
> >>  Before coming to a final consensus, we'd like to give people adequate
> time
> >> to review source material, marshall arguments and discuss on the mailing
> >> list.  To this end, we're asking that interested parties do just this
> over
> >> the course of the next ~two weeks. Following that period, on 4/28,
> we'll be
> >> initiating a consensus call that will last an additional two weeks,
> with the
> >> aim of converging modeling language / protocol by Friday, 5/9.
> >>
> >> The consensus call should also generate proposals for any material
> changes
> >> required to the underlying protocols.  These proposals in turn will
> form the
> >> basis for a later draft including gap analysis and said changes.  Those
> >> strongly in favor of one protocol over another should be prepared to
> >> contribute to this analysis.
> >>
> >>
> >> best,
> >>
> >>  -ed
> >>
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