On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: > I agree with your points--comments below: > > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin > <g...@garycmartin.com> wrote: >> Hi Christian, >> >> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: >> >>> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO >>> in >>> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, >>> and in >>> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the >>> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few >>> seconds, >>> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to >>> lose >>> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will >>> attest >>> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today... >> >> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a >> child as >> central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the >> original >> would be: >> >> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment >> (seems >> too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity, >> appearing dots >> show progress just fine) > > Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less > forced. > >> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock >> (12 to 12 >> feels more natural to me) > > Agree with that, too.
Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded. >> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG >> iconography on colour use) > > Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set > in the UI... Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this suggestion ;-) I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet' so I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots appearing in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about showing them all as grey from the start, and then lighting up with colour. Regards, --Gary >> Regards, >> --Gary >> >>> Christian >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin <g...@garycmartin.com >>> > >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> >>>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've >>>> uploaded >>>> one simple treatment to: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations >>>> >>>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow. >>>> >>>> Night, >>>> --Gary >>>> >>>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably >>>> worth >>>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some >>>> alternative >>>> treatments. >>>> >>>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote: >>>> >>>>> Christian, Eben >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an >>>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar >>>>> interface.iconography and greeting children. >>>>> >>>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that >>>>> consecutively named files will do the trick >>>>> >>>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping >>>>> screenshots, do >>>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab? >>>>> >>>>> Input greatly appreciated >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> >>>>> Sean >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe we could work on it together? >>>>>> >>>>>> here's my idea.... like my booth rollup banner mockup which >>>>>> Christian >>>>>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within >>>>>> the Sugar >>>>>> HIG and iconography. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the >>>>>> previous SoaS >>>>>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs") >>>>>> >>>>>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but >>>>>> instead of >>>>>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids! >>>>>> >>>>>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity >>>>>> icon... >>>>>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. >>>>>> So kids >>>>>> understand that Activities are for them. >>>>>> >>>>>> And ending with... kids around the Journal! >>>>>> >>>>>> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos? >>>>>> >>>>>> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring >>>>>> >>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Sean >>>>>> >>>>>> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling >>>>>> sequence for >>>>>> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements, >>>>>> backing down to the first image >>>>>> >>>>>> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could >>>>>> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin <g...@garycmartin.com >>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Sean, >>>>>>> FYI, this came in off list. >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> --G >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: James Zaki <james.z...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST >>>>>>> To: Gary C Martin <g...@garycmartin.com> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot >>>>>>> Screen >>>>>>> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for >>>>>>> inspiration? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin <g...@garycmartin.com> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sebastian, Gary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea >>>>>>>>> brewing for >>>>>>>>> awhile >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --G >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What's the deadline please? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>> Sean >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin >>>>>>>>> <g...@garycmartin.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. >>>>>>>>>>> I've been >>>>>>>>>>> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our >>>>>>>>>>> SoaS >>>>>>>>>>> Yum >>>>>>>>>>> repo >>>>>>>>>>> to reflect the changes for Fedora 11. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, the plymouth package has been partly >>>>>>>>>>> rewritten, >>>>>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>>>>> was wondering (also with regard to #709), how we wanted to >>>>>>>>>>> deal >>>>>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>>>>> new boot screen. For now, I've just implemented the old >>>>>>>>>>> Sugar logo >>>>>>>>>>> again, but we might also want to have something more shiny >>>>>>>>>>> (probably >>>>>>>>>>> with a progress bar). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Some form of progress indicator would be a useful addition. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really that good at art and the Sugar logo thing >>>>>>>>>>> there was >>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>> first nothing more than a quick hack, so it'd would be >>>>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>>>> great if >>>>>>>>>>> someone could have a look and work on such a boot screen. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to give it a look/shot from a graphics point of >>>>>>>>>> view if >>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>> one else steps forward. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So. When did you need it by? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> OLPC is currently doing the same for their 1.5 software >>>>>>>>>>> release, >>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>> gives us a good possibility to have a look at the file >>>>>>>>>>> structure: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/~halfline/olpc.tar.bz2 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's anything I can help with. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm new to plymouth, but looking at the content of >>>>>>>>>> olpc.tar.bz2 it >>>>>>>>>> seems simple. My main question is where should I look for the >>>>>>>>>> config >>>>>>>>>> that describes which images get loaded in what order. >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the >>>>>>>>>> names just conform to some hardcoded protocol? How about the >>>>>>>>>> location >>>>>>>>>> of corner-image.png, perhaps hardcoded again? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm just downloading your latest Soas build so will have a >>>>>>>>>> dig in >>>>>>>>>> there to see what you have done already – I'm just >>>>>>>>>> wondering if >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> is really as easy as generating a bunch of png files with the >>>>>>>>>> correct >>>>>>>>>> file names :-) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> --Gary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> --Sebastian >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>>> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>>>>>> sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> anyth...@christianmarcschmidt.com >>> >>> http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com >>> >>> 917/ 575 0013 >> >> > > > > -- > anyth...@christianmarcschmidt.com > > http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com > > 917/ 575 0013 _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) 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