Here's the second mockup: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Eleven_Color_Ray_Variant.2C_Growing_XO_Avatar.2C_Starts_With_Logo_Splash_Page
This version includes a logo/copyright splash page and a "growing" or "approaching" XO avatar. Comments welcome please. thanks Sean On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Sean DALY <[email protected]> wrote: > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Eleven_Color_Ray_Variant_of_XO_Avatar_Sugar_Boot.2C_Grey_to_Color_Transition > > I've finally updated the wiki with my first mockup! Sorry about the > delay, I lack graphics editing skills I'm afraid. > > I have attached comment to the mockup. I keep the XO avatar size > stable in this first one, I want to try another one with growing size > as expressed yesterday. > > Note: the idea is this follows a previous page with Sugar logo, > version info, copyright notice, and distro logo (+ possibility of > school logo). I will try to work those into my next mockup. > > The spectrum colors were cheerfully eyedropped from an image of > Ellsworth Kelly's painting "Spectrum IV" (1967), with the > particularity that I thought it interesting to cycle from XO green > (mockup green darker than should be, sorry) > > thanks > > Sean > > > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Thanks Sean--a visual would be good to fully understand the proposal. >> I guess my feeling on all of this is that less is more--as Eben said >> earlier, the boot sequence is really just the set-up for the UI. I'd >> be happy if we simply did away with the split-XO, but I'm also >> on-board with adding a bit of color, though I would caution not to >> overthink it. The reason the Mac OS boot sequence you mention works so >> well is due to its simplicity. Instead of a face, we have the XO as >> our emblem--and the circle, while making a reference to connectedness >> and community, transitions into a core feature of the UI in Home... >> >> Either way, looking forward to seeing your mockups! >> >> >> Christian >> >> >> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Sean DALY <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I like Gary's most recent one with the dots filling in color >>> >>> I got halfway through a mockup with XO avatars appearing, then >>> Activity icons, but I feel using either will just be too confusing... >>> one could think network discovery was happening, or Activity loading. >>> >>> After much reflection, I think the friendliest greeting we could offer >>> to Learners is a face, a Speakish one with eyes rolling around the >>> ring (and a growing smile) while the colors come on. There are still >>> many people who fell in love with their little Macs because of the >>> smiley face. >>> >>> But... that's outside the Sugar HIG and I would think twice before >>> stepping outside of that. So I reread them and came up with this idea >>> (which I hope to mock up tomorrow): instead of dots, I want to do >>> oblong ovals like a big version of the Activity spinner graphic. I >>> searched high and low on sl.o and laptop.org for an SVG but only found >>> a lo-res PNG :-( so I'll just improvise ovals. What I like about >>> presenting the spinner is: immediate identification of a waiting >>> period, no confusion with other elements (the filled in dots are too >>> similar to networks in the Neighborhood view). Also I like that the >>> spinner has 11, not 12 dividers; that asymmetry is interesting and >>> remains clocklike. I like Gary's proposal of empty ones filled with >>> color which I'd like to keep. And... I'd like to start the middle XO >>> icon small (e.g. neighborhood view size) and step it up in size with >>> each spinner step; grow in importance as the system builds, until at >>> the end normal size. >>> >>> As for the colors, I'm not sure I like the color pairs... I'd like to >>> try solid colors, moving through the spectrum rainbowlike. Less >>> Sugarish perhaps, but visually stronger might be. >>> >>> Not sure if the initial logo flash is enough, but concerned that >>> keeping it around might fight the spinner ring. >>> >>> Will have a visual tomorrow to show (holiday so I will have some time) >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sean DALY <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Re: grey vs. colors in progress: Actually, I have an issue with >>>>> all-grey... users could worry that colors are not working in the Sugar >>>>> UI. >>>> >>>> If we treated the XO in the center in the selected color combination, >>>> we would not only address Sean's point, but also act as a signifier of >>>> identity. But I take it this is a technical challenge? I do also agree >>>> with the point that gray means "in progress". A simplified version of >>>> the current boot sequence, without the spinning/split XO, would work >>>> well I think. >>>> >>>> I wouldn't overthink the gray dots--they are just status indicators >>>> and the more important aspect in this case (in my opinion) is the XO >>>> and the radial arrangement that references the ring in Home. >>>> >>>> >>>> Christian >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think we should consider colors although I do appreciate the "still >>>>> loading" context communicated by grey. >>>>> >>>>> I will post a mockup later expressing that approach; grey dots present >>>>> right from the start (ring power!), filling in with color during >>>>> progress... the ring "approaching" colors from grey >>>>> >>>>> I would not recommend customizing the splash/progress from within >>>>> Sugar... boot time is often a tense moment fraught with impatience >>>>> (especially after a freeze/crash) and predictability in how Sugar >>>>> "usually" loads is I think desirable >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> >>>>> Sean >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gary C Martin <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I agree with your points--comments below: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Christian, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO in >>>>>>>>> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, and in >>>>>>>>> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the >>>>>>>>> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few seconds, >>>>>>>>> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to lose >>>>>>>>> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will attest >>>>>>>>> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a child >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the >>>>>>>> original >>>>>>>> would be: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment >>>>>>>> (seems >>>>>>>> too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity, appearing >>>>>>>> dots >>>>>>>> show progress just fine) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less forced. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12 to >>>>>>>> 12 >>>>>>>> feels more natural to me) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Agree with that, too. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG >>>>>>>> iconography on colour use) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> UI... >>>>>> >>>>>> Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this suggestion >>>>>> ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet' so >>>>>> I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots >>>>>> appearing >>>>>> in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about showing them all >>>>>> as >>>>>> grey from the start, and then lighting up with colour. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> --Gary >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> --Gary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Christian >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've >>>>>>>>>> uploaded >>>>>>>>>> one simple treatment to: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Night, >>>>>>>>>> --Gary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably >>>>>>>>>> worth >>>>>>>>>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some >>>>>>>>>> alternative >>>>>>>>>> treatments. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Christian, Eben >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an >>>>>>>>>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar >>>>>>>>>>> interface.iconography and greeting children. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that >>>>>>>>>>> consecutively named files will do the trick >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do >>>>>>>>>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Input greatly appreciated >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sean >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we could work on it together? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> here's my idea.... like my booth rollup banner mockup which >>>>>>>>>>>> Christian >>>>>>>>>>>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the >>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar >>>>>>>>>>>> HIG and iconography. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous >>>>>>>>>>>> SoaS >>>>>>>>>>>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs") >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity >>>>>>>>>>>> icon... >>>>>>>>>>>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So >>>>>>>>>>>> kids >>>>>>>>>>>> understand that Activities are for them. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And ending with... kids around the Journal! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sean >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements, >>>>>>>>>>>> backing down to the first image >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could >>>>>>>>>>>> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sean, >>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI, this came in off list. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> --G >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: James Zaki <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Gary C Martin <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian, Gary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea brewing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awhile >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --G >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the deadline please? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SoaS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to reflect the changes for Fedora 11. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, the plymouth package has been partly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering (also with regard to #709), how we wanted to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new boot screen. For now, I've just implemented the old Sugar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again, but we might also want to have something more shiny >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (probably >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a progress bar). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some form of progress indicator would be a useful addition. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really that good at art and the Sugar logo thing there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first nothing more than a quick hack, so it'd would be really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone could have a look and work on such a boot screen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to give it a look/shot from a graphics point of view >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one else steps forward. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So. When did you need it by? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OLPC is currently doing the same for their 1.5 software >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives us a good possibility to have a look at the file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/~halfline/olpc.tar.bz2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's anything I can help with. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm new to plymouth, but looking at the content of olpc.tar.bz2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems simple. My main question is where should I look for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that describes which images get loaded in what order. Perhaps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> names just conform to some hardcoded protocol? How about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of corner-image.png, perhaps hardcoded again? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just downloading your latest Soas build so will have a dig >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there to see what you have done already – I'm just wondering if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is really as easy as generating a bunch of png files with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file names :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Gary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Sebastian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 917/ 575 0013 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 917/ 575 0013 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com >>>> >>>> 917/ 575 0013 >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> [email protected] >> >> http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com >> >> 917/ 575 0013 >> > _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) 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