http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Eleven_Color_Ray_Variant_of_XO_Avatar_Sugar_Boot.2C_Grey_to_Color_Transition
I've finally updated the wiki with my first mockup! Sorry about the delay, I lack graphics editing skills I'm afraid. I have attached comment to the mockup. I keep the XO avatar size stable in this first one, I want to try another one with growing size as expressed yesterday. Note: the idea is this follows a previous page with Sugar logo, version info, copyright notice, and distro logo (+ possibility of school logo). I will try to work those into my next mockup. The spectrum colors were cheerfully eyedropped from an image of Ellsworth Kelly's painting "Spectrum IV" (1967), with the particularity that I thought it interesting to cycle from XO green (mockup green darker than should be, sorry) thanks Sean On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Sean--a visual would be good to fully understand the proposal. > I guess my feeling on all of this is that less is more--as Eben said > earlier, the boot sequence is really just the set-up for the UI. I'd > be happy if we simply did away with the split-XO, but I'm also > on-board with adding a bit of color, though I would caution not to > overthink it. The reason the Mac OS boot sequence you mention works so > well is due to its simplicity. Instead of a face, we have the XO as > our emblem--and the circle, while making a reference to connectedness > and community, transitions into a core feature of the UI in Home... > > Either way, looking forward to seeing your mockups! > > > Christian > > > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Sean DALY <[email protected]> wrote: >> I like Gary's most recent one with the dots filling in color >> >> I got halfway through a mockup with XO avatars appearing, then >> Activity icons, but I feel using either will just be too confusing... >> one could think network discovery was happening, or Activity loading. >> >> After much reflection, I think the friendliest greeting we could offer >> to Learners is a face, a Speakish one with eyes rolling around the >> ring (and a growing smile) while the colors come on. There are still >> many people who fell in love with their little Macs because of the >> smiley face. >> >> But... that's outside the Sugar HIG and I would think twice before >> stepping outside of that. So I reread them and came up with this idea >> (which I hope to mock up tomorrow): instead of dots, I want to do >> oblong ovals like a big version of the Activity spinner graphic. I >> searched high and low on sl.o and laptop.org for an SVG but only found >> a lo-res PNG :-( so I'll just improvise ovals. What I like about >> presenting the spinner is: immediate identification of a waiting >> period, no confusion with other elements (the filled in dots are too >> similar to networks in the Neighborhood view). Also I like that the >> spinner has 11, not 12 dividers; that asymmetry is interesting and >> remains clocklike. I like Gary's proposal of empty ones filled with >> color which I'd like to keep. And... I'd like to start the middle XO >> icon small (e.g. neighborhood view size) and step it up in size with >> each spinner step; grow in importance as the system builds, until at >> the end normal size. >> >> As for the colors, I'm not sure I like the color pairs... I'd like to >> try solid colors, moving through the spectrum rainbowlike. Less >> Sugarish perhaps, but visually stronger might be. >> >> Not sure if the initial logo flash is enough, but concerned that >> keeping it around might fight the spinner ring. >> >> Will have a visual tomorrow to show (holiday so I will have some time) >> >> thanks >> >> Sean >> >> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Christian Marc Schmidt >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sean DALY <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Re: grey vs. colors in progress: Actually, I have an issue with >>>> all-grey... users could worry that colors are not working in the Sugar >>>> UI. >>> >>> If we treated the XO in the center in the selected color combination, >>> we would not only address Sean's point, but also act as a signifier of >>> identity. But I take it this is a technical challenge? I do also agree >>> with the point that gray means "in progress". A simplified version of >>> the current boot sequence, without the spinning/split XO, would work >>> well I think. >>> >>> I wouldn't overthink the gray dots--they are just status indicators >>> and the more important aspect in this case (in my opinion) is the XO >>> and the radial arrangement that references the ring in Home. >>> >>> >>> Christian >>> >>>> >>>> I think we should consider colors although I do appreciate the "still >>>> loading" context communicated by grey. >>>> >>>> I will post a mockup later expressing that approach; grey dots present >>>> right from the start (ring power!), filling in with color during >>>> progress... the ring "approaching" colors from grey >>>> >>>> I would not recommend customizing the splash/progress from within >>>> Sugar... boot time is often a tense moment fraught with impatience >>>> (especially after a freeze/crash) and predictability in how Sugar >>>> "usually" loads is I think desirable >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> Sean >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gary C Martin <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I agree with your points--comments below: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Christian, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO in >>>>>>>> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, and in >>>>>>>> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the >>>>>>>> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few seconds, >>>>>>>> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to lose >>>>>>>> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will attest >>>>>>>> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a child >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the >>>>>>> original >>>>>>> would be: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment >>>>>>> (seems >>>>>>> too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity, appearing >>>>>>> dots >>>>>>> show progress just fine) >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less forced. >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12 to >>>>>>> 12 >>>>>>> feels more natural to me) >>>>>> >>>>>> Agree with that, too. >>>>> >>>>> Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded. >>>>> >>>>>>> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG >>>>>>> iconography on colour use) >>>>>> >>>>>> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set in the >>>>>> UI... >>>>> >>>>> Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this suggestion >>>>> ;-) >>>>> >>>>> I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet' so >>>>> I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots appearing >>>>> in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about showing them all >>>>> as >>>>> grey from the start, and then lighting up with colour. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> --Gary >>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> --Gary >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Christian >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've >>>>>>>>> uploaded >>>>>>>>> one simple treatment to: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Night, >>>>>>>>> --Gary >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth >>>>>>>>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some >>>>>>>>> alternative >>>>>>>>> treatments. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Christian, Eben >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an >>>>>>>>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar >>>>>>>>>> interface.iconography and greeting children. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that >>>>>>>>>> consecutively named files will do the trick >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do >>>>>>>>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Input greatly appreciated >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sean >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we could work on it together? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> here's my idea.... like my booth rollup banner mockup which >>>>>>>>>>> Christian >>>>>>>>>>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the >>>>>>>>>>> Sugar >>>>>>>>>>> HIG and iconography. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous >>>>>>>>>>> SoaS >>>>>>>>>>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs") >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity >>>>>>>>>>> icon... >>>>>>>>>>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So >>>>>>>>>>> kids >>>>>>>>>>> understand that Activities are for them. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And ending with... kids around the Journal! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sean >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements, >>>>>>>>>>> backing down to the first image >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could >>>>>>>>>>> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Sean, >>>>>>>>>>>> FYI, this came in off list. >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> --G >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: James Zaki <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST >>>>>>>>>>>> To: Gary C Martin <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian, Gary >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea brewing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> awhile >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --G >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the deadline please? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our SoaS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to reflect the changes for Fedora 11. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As it turned out, the plymouth package has been partly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rewritten, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was wondering (also with regard to #709), how we wanted to deal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new boot screen. For now, I've just implemented the old Sugar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again, but we might also want to have something more shiny >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (probably >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a progress bar). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some form of progress indicator would be a useful addition. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not really that good at art and the Sugar logo thing there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first nothing more than a quick hack, so it'd would be really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone could have a look and work on such a boot screen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to give it a look/shot from a graphics point of view >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one else steps forward. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So. When did you need it by? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OLPC is currently doing the same for their 1.5 software >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives us a good possibility to have a look at the file >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/~halfline/olpc.tar.bz2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if there's anything I can help with. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm new to plymouth, but looking at the content of olpc.tar.bz2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems simple. My main question is where should I look for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that describes which images get loaded in what order. Perhaps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> names just conform to some hardcoded protocol? How about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> location >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of corner-image.png, perhaps hardcoded again? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just downloading your latest Soas build so will have a dig >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there to see what you have done already – I'm just wondering if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is really as easy as generating a bunch of png files with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file names :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Gary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Sebastian >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sugar-devel mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 917/ 575 0013 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com >>>>>> >>>>>> 917/ 575 0013 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> [email protected] >>> >>> http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com >>> >>> 917/ 575 0013 >>> >> > > > > -- > [email protected] > > http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com > > 917/ 575 0013 > _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) 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