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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Chris Craddock
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, McKown, John <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Depends. What are they running? How do they measure "up time"? We are
still
> stuck in the 1970s for all intents and purposes. We run CICS with
VSAM. No
> RDMS. No Websphere. 100% COBOL. We do run some 3270 "screen scraping"
and
> even have a few CICS web like transactions via HTTP. But we have a lot
of
> night down-time for running batch reports and updates against the CICS
VSAM
> files. This is on CICS/TS 3.2, z/OS 1.10, and a z9BC. Our legacy
> applications are old, old, old.
>  <http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html>
>


I laughingly refer to this as "running in 1985 compatibility mode" and
pretty much all but the top tier of customers still run that way.
There's a huge gulf between what the platform is capable of and what
people
actually do with it.
<SNIP>

Perhaps if you stop and think about it for a few moments, the shops that
stop and do all these batch updates (or come to a halt for 30-90
minutes) are the shops that seem to be able recover quickly during a
Recovery practice. 

The ones that run 24x7 with no daily sync-point (across all systems)
find that when they are forced to do a D/R practice, they have n number
of platforms in various states (looking at a business day), and then
realize that they have a secondary disaster on their hands.

Meanwhile, continuing to think about the aforementioned situation
(running in '85 compat mode), yes, there are things that can be done to
allow real-time updates using VSAM. But when has a good business case
been presented to upper management to go to that kind of processing?

Understand, with a Bank, that may be forbidden by law (debits first
processing being illegal...).

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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