John,

Our mainframe appliation systems are old also.  We have a z10BC, one
production LPAR, no CF, and CICS/VSAM with a very little bit of DB2
processing.  Over the past year and a half our DDF processing has been
increasing dramatically, so the applications folks have found out about
that nicety.  However, I would say we are fully operational greater than
60% of the time.  Being not operational 40% of the time means you have
something down at some time for a total of 9.6 hours a day.  Being a
bank with online banking (Yes, our online banking has to access the
mainframe for legacy data) that would be completely unacceptable for us.
We'd be losing customers rapidly.

Tom Kelman
Enterprise Capacity Planner
Commerce Bank of Kansas City
(816) 760-7632

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of McKown, John
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming
Soon!
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:23 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's
> > Coming Soon!
> >
> > That is interesting, but I thought another part of the
> > article was more
> > interesting.  On the second page there is a heading
> > "Governments Invest
> > in Modernization" with the following statement.
> >
> > "The timing of this research is intriguing; it comes on the heels of
> > reports that the U.S. Secret Service has been seriously hampered by
> > underfunding in IT, and specifically by a 30-year-old legacy
mainframe
> > system at the heart of the organization, which has been fully
> > operational only 60 percent of the time."
> >
> > I'd certainly like to have more on this.  Are they saying
> > that the U.S.
> > Secret Service is still using 30 year old IBM 360 processors
> > - certainly
> > not.  But if the processors and operating systems are much newer
than
> > that shouldn't they be able to get better than 60% up time?
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom Kelman
> 
> Depends. What are they running? How do they measure "up time"? We are
> still stuck in the 1970s for all intents and purposes. We run CICS
with
> VSAM. No RDMS. No Websphere. 100% COBOL. We do run some 3270 "screen
> scraping" and even have a few CICS web like transactions via HTTP. But
we
> have a lot of night down-time for running batch reports and updates
> against the CICS VSAM files. This is on CICS/TS 3.2, z/OS 1.10, and a
> z9BC. Our legacy applications are old, old, old.
> 
> --
> John McKown
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