In <[email protected]>, on 04/13/2011
   at 02:11 PM, Scott Ford <[email protected]> said:

>How many MF hackers (sic) or viruses have you seen,

Several[1]. I was one[2].

>I have beenĀ  at it 40yrs, never one

You've never seen a printed report of one, or just never seen one in
action? The former case has been in the media.

>I have customers who dont even know their own evnviroments.

That I believe.

[1] Most due to lax administration and poor user coding rather than
    to errors in IBM code.

[2] I both exploited[3] and reported security holes.

[3] In a lawful manner.
 
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     Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
     ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html> 
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)

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